Botcon Flak Revealed!

I cried tears of joy.

Best looking use of that mold yet, imo...I'm not going to Botcon, nor am I going to pay rediculous amounts of money trying to get this, but if it were on a store shel I'd buy it...(And I didn't buy the two universe repaints of this)

Nice. I kinda figured we'd be seeing this mold again in this set. I was hoping not though.

Still it is a nice colour scheme.

First reaction was "Not this mold AGAIN" but I have to say it looks fantastic! Great paint apps! Hmm this years set is tempting me more and more.

i reli like the look of the figure, i've seen the repaints before this and thought nah

i'm reli glad i'm getting this years set, theres quite alot of bang for my buck, the fig itself reminds me of last years megs, but that probs because of the colour scheme, i'd assume they'd complement each other if displayed together

can't wait to see thunderclash

That's sharp, easily the best of the set.

Wish this had made it to the shelf as opposed to one of the other repaints.

Although, am I alone in thinking he looks like an upgraded Movie Wreckage?

This one actually looks pretty good. Not a big fan of that mold, but I'm digging the color scheme.

I think this is the first set where we're getting both a voyager and an ultra figure.

This set's gonna rule

Before going off on the mold choice, it bears noting that the Micromaster who bears the same name shares a similar mold, so it's not that surprising a choice.

I am a big fan of the BotCon sets.
I really don't care what it'll cost, I'll get it anyway...

But this time, I think, they came up with the worst set of the last 5 years... As usual every set will have fans and antis. Although I am not anti and I will get the set, I am just not a big fan.
Figures that we have seen over and over again and a theme that, imo, does not carry any weight in the mythos at all.
A waste of a very good opportunity, if you ask me...
I know, nobody is asking me...

You won't hear me complain about the size of MP Grimlock...

Very cool, new head too.

Lets hope Thunderclash is the best yet.

I've passed on every version of this mold so far. The first one that I finally think is worth getting is the one figure that I can't get.
I can't begin to describe how badly I think that sucks. The figure is awsome but the situation...damn.

Looks like Overload with Wreckage paint scheme....

Sid Burn wrote:Lets hope Thunderclash is the best yet.

I'm going to hope he'll be some really good mold, with no prior reuses, that's a truck.

I'm pretty sure she'll be female Thunderclash who's a repaint of Energon Arcee though...

I like the mold. I'm loving the color scheme. And I really truly love the new Head sculpt.

This is the best figure of the set. Unless Thunderclash can top it.

He does remind me a bit of the Beastwars Optimus Primal figure. Probably the white with the red joints.

But its still a great figure.

PorQPine wrote:That's sharp, easily the best of the set.

No doubt, but it didn't have to be very good to be better than the others. However, I really do like him.

Unwavering in my decision to have not ordered this set.

One of my favorite molds from the Cybertron line. Great paint scheme. Wish they didn't do Dropshot and Overload on this mold earlier though.

I have to figure Thunderclash as a classics prime repaint.

Pink windows, white and gold body etc etc.

keep my fingers crossed

Sid Burn wrote:I have to figure Thunderclash as a classics prime repaint.

Pink windows, white and gold body etc etc.

keep my fingers crossed

i reli wish this too, but using the mold two years in a row, very highly unlikely

The new head is great, the paint job is awesome. It's the dinosaur feet of this mold that I hate.

Just like the rest of the set, it's nice, just not more-than-shelf-price nice.

The best use of that mold yet, bot mode looks real sharp.

I wish I had one.

god how many time is this mold gonna be used!?

Now THERE is a repaint/retool of Cybertron CD Scattorshot that I would actually buy!
Makes me long for the good old days (2000-2004) when pre-registration was a mere $40 ($20 bucks more got ya a shirt, too!) as opposed to $300+, the convention wasn't always in BFE in relation to Michigan, and the exclusives were actually affordable.
Ah, memories....

Agent 007 wrote:god how many time is this mold gonna be used!?

I think it's unanimous. After BotCon is over we are all going to get together, storm the mfg plant and break the mold. And after we're done there we are going to beat the hell out of the mold-maker just for good measure.

It looks great, however too many of this mould have been used in the last year. I do really like that they took an extra step and remoulded the head. It's easily the best look of all the versions of Scattorshot, I'd say even better then the original.

However the overkill of the mould makes me want this set LESS.

I like it, I'm a fan of the mold, and so far this is the best item in the botcon set. IMO

I'm not paying those prices either, but I like this one & land shark.

Scourge is OK, but I think Kup is pretty lame.

T-Macksimus wrote:

Agent 007 wrote:god how many time is this mold gonna be used!?

I think it's unanimous. After BotCon is over we are all going to get together, storm the mfg plant and break the mold. And after we're done there we are going to beat the hell out of the mold-maker just for good measure.

Now now, lets not hurt the poor guy. For all we know he's one the visionary that came up with Universe Cyclonus or Animated Magnus. If we're gonna beat someone lets pick someone outside of the fan scope... someone fetch me the address of K-Fed...

Cobalt Prime wrote:Now THERE is a repaint/retool of Cybertron CD Scattorshot that I would actually buy!
Makes me long for the good old days (2000-2004) when pre-registration was a mere $40 ($20 bucks more got ya a shirt, too!) as opposed to $300+, the convention wasn't always in BFE in relation to Michigan, and the exclusives were actually affordable.
Ah, memories....

Now, if you are compare, you gotta do apples to apples. $300 is WITH the toys, the Friday preview and Friday night event. $40 at Otfcc was JUST the Registration. If you added the toys and other features you were well up over $150 and that was just with 2 toys.

Applesauce!

Down_Shift wrote:Now now, lets not hurt the poor guy. For all we know he's one the visionary that came up with Universe Cyclonus or Animated Magnus. If we're gonna beat someone lets pick someone outside of the fan scope... someone fetch me the address of K-Fed...

ummm...o.k. But I still get to break the mold before we take down K-Fed right? I'm still gonna shake my finger at the mold guy so he know's we're all serious. Since the head is an improvement and they finally gave it a proper paint job I guess I can't be to harsh with the poor fella.

K-fed however, has no excuse...

Wow, that's a sweet repaint/remold.

LOL another repaint of the mold that has two figures out in stores right now

Sid Burn wrote:I have to figure Thunderclash as a classics prime repaint.

Pink windows, white and gold body etc etc.

keep my fingers crossed

So far all the Botcon figures have been TF:Cybertron repaints haven't they?

So I can't see them using a random Classics figure.

Leader-Class Cybertron Optimus, with his semi-esque look and his retractable mask would work, but he's almost certainly too big think.

The deluxe Armada Prime was repackaged in Cybertron with a cyberkey that could activate his minicon port. He's a truck, and since there's already a voyager class figure, a deluxe would make sense. But that would be a hell of a cop out.

Cybertron Defense Red Alert might be a good candidate, but they already remolded him for a Botcon, so I'm skeptical that it would be him.

Quickmix is a truck, but the similarity of the mold ends there. It would be a horrible fit. Plus, it's also a voyager figure.

Mudflap fits closer visually, and, in fact, may be the next best choice ruling out LC Optimus and CD Red Alert, but again, he's a Voyager.

The only thing I can think of that's left, is Dirtboss - a deluxe sized (monster) truck.

Edit:

Going way out in left field, maybe Thunderclash is a repaint of Cybertron Thunderblast. Wouldn't make much sense, but she is a deluxe sized Cybertron figure.

Pete@BotCon wrote:Now, if you are compare, you gotta do apples to apples. $300 is WITH the toys, the Friday preview and Friday night event. $40 at Otfcc was JUST the Registration. If you added the toys and other features you were well up over $150 and that was just with 2 toys.

Applesauce!

Ah, yes, that is quite true. However, if one did not necessarily give a hang about the repainted convention toys and wanted to blow that extra $260 bucks on the dealer floor, AND was content with the benefits and goodies of the pre-reg package offered at that time, $40 bucks was quite the value. Now, we don't really have that option-its either pony up big bucks or don't pre-register and wait in line at the door.
But alas, i'm drifting precariously off topic.

Nice, I would buy that

Nice color and camo scheme there. I think the only thing kinda against this figure is that it's a mold that's already been used three times, two really recently as part of Universe 2.0 alone. Then again, it is a pretty good mold.

Caelus wrote:Going way out in left field, maybe Thunderclash is a repaint of Cybertron Thunderblast. Wouldn't make much sense, but she is a deluxe sized Cybertron figure.

Highly unlikely. In the Convention Brochure, Kup refers to Thunderclash with a male pronoun twice... and I don't think you can confuse Thunderblast with a male.

I'd agree that Cybertron Optimus Prime would be a natural choice, given the overall design of the toy... though that would make this one of the biggest sets in a long while, in terms of the sheer size of the figures (2 deluxes, a voyager, an ultra, and a leader?)

I'm almost loathe to suggest it... but what about Energon Ironhide? You've got a big, tough vehicle, in a mold that (thankfully) hasn't been used in a good while.

Some recent speculation has included Universe 2.0 Onslaught... though that figure is very new, so I'm not sure if he's a feasible addition yet. Same could be said of Universe Inferno.

emeraldbeacon wrote:I'm almost loathe to suggest it... but what about Energon Ironhide? You've got a big, tough vehicle, in a mold that (thankfully) hasn't been used in a good while.

Some recent speculation has included Universe 2.0 Onslaught... though that figure is very new, so I'm not sure if he's a feasible addition yet. Same could be said of Universe Inferno.

I'm still convinced it's going to be a Cybertron figure, but if you were going to extend it back to Energon, then Inferno, Roadblock, and STD Optimus would work too.

Man that is awesome. Just another cool TF ill never have.

Caelus wrote:

emeraldbeacon wrote:I'm almost loathe to suggest it... but what about Energon Ironhide? You've got a big, tough vehicle, in a mold that (thankfully) hasn't been used in a good while.

Some recent speculation has included Universe 2.0 Onslaught... though that figure is very new, so I'm not sure if he's a feasible addition yet. Same could be said of Universe Inferno.

I'm still convinced it's going to be a Cybertron figure, but if you were going to extend it back to Energon, then Inferno, Roadblock, and STD Optimus would work too.

I don't see why they wouldn't go to Energon - they're already using Landmine from that line.

emeraldbeacon wrote:

Caelus wrote:

emeraldbeacon wrote:I'm almost loathe to suggest it... but what about Energon Ironhide? You've got a big, tough vehicle, in a mold that (thankfully) hasn't been used in a good while.

Some recent speculation has included Universe 2.0 Onslaught... though that figure is very new, so I'm not sure if he's a feasible addition yet. Same could be said of Universe Inferno.

I'm still convinced it's going to be a Cybertron figure, but if you were going to extend it back to Energon, then Inferno, Roadblock, and STD Optimus would work too.

I don't see why they wouldn't go to Energon - they're already using Landmine from that line.

My theory is Energon Rodimus.

Mkall wrote:My theory is Energon Rodimus.

I second that.

Though a Repaint of Cybertron Prime would be much much cooler.


However I'd much rather see Hasbro do that for a retail release of the mold. So he's not as freaking expensive to get a hold of.

emeraldbeacon wrote:I don't see why they wouldn't go to Energon - they're already using Landmine from that line.

Dang, I forgot about him! I concede the point!

The randomness of the character is just so forgettable.

But of course the two jets are Energon figures too. Duh.

Mkall wrote:My theory is Energon Rodimus.

That's probably a good bet.

Everything else that leaps to mind (e.g. CD Hot Shot, Armada Overload) has been used already.

These figures are a bit of a dissapointment, compaired to the last couple of botcon sets as of late. I was sorta expecting more.

How many repaints is this mold getting this year? Sweet jesus.

Caelus wrote:

emeraldbeacon wrote:I don't see why they wouldn't go to Energon - they're already using Landmine from that line.

Dang, I forgot about him! I concede the point!

The randomness of the character is just so forgettable.

But of course the two jets are Energon figures too. Duh.

Mkall wrote:My theory is Energon Rodimus.

That's probably a good bet.

Everything else that leaps to mind (e.g. CD Hot Shot, Armada Overload) has been used already.

I will say upfront that I have not done my homework as to what has been hinted at for the remainder of this set and I will risk sounding stupid anyway (neither the first nor last time for me) but would not Energon/Universe Snowcat qualify as an almost truck-like vehicle?
I admit that if it were used I would like to see it with a different head mold but the overall design of the vehicle would actually look quite good alongside the likes of Flak/CD Scattershot.
In all reality, those 2 along with Movie Wreckage and Universe Onslaught would themselves make for an awsome box-set for the general public and be well on the way to more affordable.
Like I said, I don't know the scope of whats involved with the BotCon set and all, but I am sure I will be educated very shortly.

So is this supposed to be the same character as G1 Micromaster Flak then?