ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW
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Tomorrow is the premier date for the final episode of Machinima's entire Prime Wars trilogy. It's been over two years since the premier of the first installment, and my first review of the series. The narrative is beginning to wrap up, but there;s still a lot of ground to cover before we get to the finale. Today we'll take a look at episode 8, Collision Course. It's definitely, uh, something. Let's take a more in depth look at why together, shall we?
(Note: The following review contains spoilers for Power of the Primes and the entire Prime Wars Trilogy)
The episode opens on the main cast, now consisting of Megatron, Windblade, Optimus Primal, Perceptor and Grimlock, inside a labyrinth on the way to the well of sparks, following the directions they received from the library of Primes. Grimlock asks, in this bottomless chasm of absolutely hilarious original comedy, if they're there yet. This wouldn't be too bad if he didn't make the same joke three separate times within a two minutes. It becomes so unlikable and unfunny, especially within that short of a time frame.
Congratulations, cartoon, you've made me dislike Grimlock.
Perceptor navigates them through the caves, and makes a comment about how if they make a wrong turn they'll be lost in the cavern for 45 Million years. Aside from the fact that, by definition, you can't calculate how long someone will be lost, I think they missed a big opportunity here:
Even with all the representation of Primus, Unicron, and the Primes in various Transformers shows and movies, we never really see what ruins and relics they left behind. This would have been a great chance to flesh the world this series has built out a bit by making the Primes a sort of Greek mythology equal. Perceptor hypes the danger of the labyrinth up so much, but in the next shot, they've discovered the well of sparks with no problem.
Instead of spending as much time in the swamp as this series did, I would have loved to have spent at least part of an episode inside this maze, with the cast dealing with whatever ancient monsters or traps might lay ahead. It would have expanded the mythos, been a cool direction for the show we haven't really seen before, and make Perceptor's hype worth while. It even had the potential to be genuinely scary. It's just sad to see that potential go to waste.
DANGER beyond your WILDEST NIGHTMARES await you. We don't have the budget to animate any of it, but TRUST US! It's there!
Like I said above, they make it to the well of sparks with little issue, but just before they make it there, Megatronus has already been successful in starting the process to bring Solus Prime back from the dead, sending out a pulse wave of energy that drains power from all cybertronians. Perceptor projects a feed of several Transformers being affected, as we get a shot of the Dinobots and Emissary, for potentially the last time.
The main cast powers through the wave and makes it to the well, just in time to catch Megatronus monologuing to the rapidly appearing form of Solus Prime. A weird thing in this scene is that the well is somehow protected from the pulse wave, as neither Megatronus or the main cast are affected as soon as they enter the chamber. It's strange that this occurs, especially since the wave originated from that room.
"So wondrous wild, the whole might seem..."
Megatron sends Windblade, Primal, and Grimlock to take down Megatronus, which they oddly do with ease, compared to the ruthless battles the two sides have had in the past. As Perceptor tries to shut down the system, Megatron catches Solus Prime up on what lengths Megatronus is going to to bring her back.
Megatronus has had enough, and throws Grimlock and Primal off of him. He traps them and Windblade in pillars of fire. He does the same for Perceptor as he walks back over to the well.
It's now just Megatron, standing alone against his name sake. Megatronus reveals, in quite a bit of hasty writing, that he has apparently been behind every major event that has happened in the entire trilogy. He made the Combiners fight one another so the enigma of combination would be brought out of it's case (although that seemed to be more of Windblade's decision if I remember correctly), and he was the one to kill Optimus Prime and extract the Matrix. Megatron tells him he can stop him because he's "Megatron. But just before the battle can begin, Rodimus enters the chamber, and evolves (for no particular reason other than "Because Unicron") into his full Rodimus Unicronus form. With that, the episode ends.
*Listens to Motorhead once*
Again, it would have been interesting to have the potential of the scene exploited a bit more, in this case to give Rodimus a genuine reason to evolve. Have Rodimus struggle with Megatronus and get thrown into the well of sparks, and have it power him up. It's just missed creative opportunities like this that drag the series down. The episode as a whole was more thrilling and engaging than the previous episode, although it lacked the cool, cinematic stills the last one had. We're getting close to the very end of this entire journey, and to see it all come together will be...interesting, to say the least.
Thanks for reading my review of episode 7! Getting remarkably close to the end now, and what a trip it's been. If you haven't seen the episode yet, you can find it on Go90. I encourage you to come back and share your thoughts in the Energon Pub forum! Was I correct? Was I totally off base? Please tell me what you thought! Thanks again! I'll see you tomorrow, where we'll have a double feature, with the review for Episode 9 in the morning, and then the review for the finale later on in the day.
*Motorhead joke stolen from Thew
*
(Note: The following review contains spoilers for Power of the Primes and the entire Prime Wars Trilogy)
The episode opens on the main cast, now consisting of Megatron, Windblade, Optimus Primal, Perceptor and Grimlock, inside a labyrinth on the way to the well of sparks, following the directions they received from the library of Primes. Grimlock asks, in this bottomless chasm of absolutely hilarious original comedy, if they're there yet. This wouldn't be too bad if he didn't make the same joke three separate times within a two minutes. It becomes so unlikable and unfunny, especially within that short of a time frame.
Congratulations, cartoon, you've made me dislike Grimlock.
Perceptor navigates them through the caves, and makes a comment about how if they make a wrong turn they'll be lost in the cavern for 45 Million years. Aside from the fact that, by definition, you can't calculate how long someone will be lost, I think they missed a big opportunity here:
Even with all the representation of Primus, Unicron, and the Primes in various Transformers shows and movies, we never really see what ruins and relics they left behind. This would have been a great chance to flesh the world this series has built out a bit by making the Primes a sort of Greek mythology equal. Perceptor hypes the danger of the labyrinth up so much, but in the next shot, they've discovered the well of sparks with no problem.
Instead of spending as much time in the swamp as this series did, I would have loved to have spent at least part of an episode inside this maze, with the cast dealing with whatever ancient monsters or traps might lay ahead. It would have expanded the mythos, been a cool direction for the show we haven't really seen before, and make Perceptor's hype worth while. It even had the potential to be genuinely scary. It's just sad to see that potential go to waste.
DANGER beyond your WILDEST NIGHTMARES await you. We don't have the budget to animate any of it, but TRUST US! It's there!
Like I said above, they make it to the well of sparks with little issue, but just before they make it there, Megatronus has already been successful in starting the process to bring Solus Prime back from the dead, sending out a pulse wave of energy that drains power from all cybertronians. Perceptor projects a feed of several Transformers being affected, as we get a shot of the Dinobots and Emissary, for potentially the last time.
The main cast powers through the wave and makes it to the well, just in time to catch Megatronus monologuing to the rapidly appearing form of Solus Prime. A weird thing in this scene is that the well is somehow protected from the pulse wave, as neither Megatronus or the main cast are affected as soon as they enter the chamber. It's strange that this occurs, especially since the wave originated from that room.
"So wondrous wild, the whole might seem..."
Megatron sends Windblade, Primal, and Grimlock to take down Megatronus, which they oddly do with ease, compared to the ruthless battles the two sides have had in the past. As Perceptor tries to shut down the system, Megatron catches Solus Prime up on what lengths Megatronus is going to to bring her back.
Megatronus has had enough, and throws Grimlock and Primal off of him. He traps them and Windblade in pillars of fire. He does the same for Perceptor as he walks back over to the well.
It's now just Megatron, standing alone against his name sake. Megatronus reveals, in quite a bit of hasty writing, that he has apparently been behind every major event that has happened in the entire trilogy. He made the Combiners fight one another so the enigma of combination would be brought out of it's case (although that seemed to be more of Windblade's decision if I remember correctly), and he was the one to kill Optimus Prime and extract the Matrix. Megatron tells him he can stop him because he's "Megatron. But just before the battle can begin, Rodimus enters the chamber, and evolves (for no particular reason other than "Because Unicron") into his full Rodimus Unicronus form. With that, the episode ends.
*Listens to Motorhead once*
Again, it would have been interesting to have the potential of the scene exploited a bit more, in this case to give Rodimus a genuine reason to evolve. Have Rodimus struggle with Megatronus and get thrown into the well of sparks, and have it power him up. It's just missed creative opportunities like this that drag the series down. The episode as a whole was more thrilling and engaging than the previous episode, although it lacked the cool, cinematic stills the last one had. We're getting close to the very end of this entire journey, and to see it all come together will be...interesting, to say the least.
Thanks for reading my review of episode 7! Getting remarkably close to the end now, and what a trip it's been. If you haven't seen the episode yet, you can find it on Go90. I encourage you to come back and share your thoughts in the Energon Pub forum! Was I correct? Was I totally off base? Please tell me what you thought! Thanks again! I'll see you tomorrow, where we'll have a double feature, with the review for Episode 9 in the morning, and then the review for the finale later on in the day.
*Motorhead joke stolen from Thew
*Credit(s): Go90
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Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968298)
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on July 2nd, 2018 @ 6:57pm CDT
Posted by Sarahthecutevixen on July 2nd, 2018 @ 6:57pm CDT
missed creative opportunities is the show isnt it
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968335)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 2nd, 2018 @ 11:11pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 2nd, 2018 @ 11:11pm CDT
FINAL episode - https://www.go90.com/videos/01oNDK60OqY
CW's finale gave us "Screaming Star Starscream" at the 11th hour, TR's finale gave us "Trypticon just falls over" and "A wild Megatronus appears!" at the 11th hour, so let's see what kind of last minute random game changer this final episode of Potpie will give us from out of nowhere at the 11th hour.
CW's finale gave us "Screaming Star Starscream" at the 11th hour, TR's finale gave us "Trypticon just falls over" and "A wild Megatronus appears!" at the 11th hour, so let's see what kind of last minute random game changer this final episode of Potpie will give us from out of nowhere at the 11th hour.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968343)
Posted by ShockBlade501 on July 3rd, 2018 @ 12:46am CDT
Posted by ShockBlade501 on July 3rd, 2018 @ 12:46am CDT
Well now that that's over I can finally uninstall go90, and only a few weeks before it got discontinued too
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968356)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 5:24am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 5:24am CDT
I'm not expecting much of this finale really, another good review bronze, what are you going to do with yourself once this is done though? I suggest they make you sit down and watch all of g1 and review that in the same style *joking of course*
*joking of course*
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968361)
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2018 @ 6:19am CDT
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2018 @ 6:19am CDT
Oh FFS ... if the three series achieved anything it was to give us a post-war Megatron, one with snark and attitude.
And then they kill him.
And resurrect Optimus fucking Prime.
Just stay dead for once!
And then they kill him.
And resurrect Optimus fucking Prime.
Just stay dead for once!
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968362)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 6:50am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 6:50am CDT
I don't think they know how to keep him dead, that or there is someone high up at hasbro who gets the sweats when prime is dead in any one fiction for a length greater then a year...if that.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968364)
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2018 @ 7:00am CDT
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2018 @ 7:00am CDT
No one really cares about this fiction though! Within a year it will be long forgotten about and only spoken in whispers amongst small circles ... those circles which surround two people armed with knives arguing over truck or munkky!
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968382)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:06am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:06am CDT
I didn't say this individual was rational about it, they could easily be one of the children traumatised by primes death in the movie. I agree though, aside from "where they went wrong" retrospectives, I can't see this one standing the test of time. Though any fans of these three shows are welcome to like it 
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968388)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:22am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:22am CDT
"Those sparks will bring life to a new generation of Transformers."
The Axalon is seen at the end.
And Starscream's ghost looks like he's hoping to hitch himself a ride.
Don't tell me they threw in these bits to makes this show a sort of a gap-bridging series between G1 and the Beast Era.
The Axalon is seen at the end.
And Starscream's ghost looks like he's hoping to hitch himself a ride.
Don't tell me they threw in these bits to makes this show a sort of a gap-bridging series between G1 and the Beast Era.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968390)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:33am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:33am CDT
But how would that even work...would it work, seems like a very lazy tie in and more of a problem considering what bw megs intially wanted to do.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968395)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:42am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:42am CDT
The same way that some people think this is meant to be in the same world as the G1 cartoon but years later: Very loosely with only the vaguest recollection of specific details taken into account rather than actually remembering how things were like in the old shows.ZeroWolf wrote:But how would that even work...
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968397)
Posted by o.supreme on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:47am CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:47am CDT
Well it's over. I know some people here don't like me ranting about the negatives, and how I shojldn't watch the show if I don't like it, so I promise this will be my last rant post (everyone else gets away with it ) but...
Good Grief...
yay Predaking! I'm glad we finally found out why he wanted the Enigma all this tome...oh wait..no we didn't....
Megatronus will forever be known as the "head popper-offer" of Combiners.
"You will suffer at the hands of Predaking!" (yay one of his lines, sort of, from FFOD pt 5)
So...All the bots that Megatronus killed are "gone forever", but Optimus Prime gets a mulligan because...? I'm almost certain the writers of this show would have wanted "The Touch" to work in there somewhere...but probably didn't want to pay Stan Bush to use it.
Megatron, also reminds us of some of his dialogue with Unicron from TF:TM. I guess the only good thing is, if there is any sort of media tie in for WFC (which there probably wont be), but at least it wont be with Machinima, despite that little stinger at the end.
Sabre- I also had thoughts about Machinima in a back handed way trying to make this an official gap between the original series and BW, but Optimal Optimus is there, so that would be really, really bad writing. In my *head canon*, if the original animated series had gone on, I always figured it would have been the nucleon/action master process that would have turned Galvatron back into Megatron, but then how they ever got the ability to transform back would also have to be explained at some point.
well... all I have to say is
*In a post credits scene, Fort Max is in a far off corner of the planet crying because everyone forgot about him.*
) but...Good Grief...
yay Predaking! I'm glad we finally found out why he wanted the Enigma all this tome...oh wait..no we didn't....
Megatronus will forever be known as the "head popper-offer" of Combiners.
"You will suffer at the hands of Predaking!" (yay one of his lines, sort of, from FFOD pt 5)
So...All the bots that Megatronus killed are "gone forever", but Optimus Prime gets a mulligan because...? I'm almost certain the writers of this show would have wanted "The Touch" to work in there somewhere...but probably didn't want to pay Stan Bush to use it.
Megatron, also reminds us of some of his dialogue with Unicron from TF:TM. I guess the only good thing is, if there is any sort of media tie in for WFC (which there probably wont be), but at least it wont be with Machinima, despite that little stinger at the end.
Sabre- I also had thoughts about Machinima in a back handed way trying to make this an official gap between the original series and BW, but Optimal Optimus is there, so that would be really, really bad writing. In my *head canon*, if the original animated series had gone on, I always figured it would have been the nucleon/action master process that would have turned Galvatron back into Megatron, but then how they ever got the ability to transform back would also have to be explained at some point.
well... all I have to say is
*In a post credits scene, Fort Max is in a far off corner of the planet crying because everyone forgot about him.*
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968398)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:48am CDT
So a case of: "squint hard enough and you'll see it connect"
There's no reason for any of these, even if it's just implied...although if they want to play that game doesn't this imply then that megatron was resurrected then ala Return of Convoy and subsequent text? I mean if you go from us g1, he was still galvatron and seemed at peace with that.
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:48am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The same way that some people think this is meant to be in the same world as the G1 cartoon but years later: Very loosely with only the vaguest recollection of specific details taken into account rather than actually remembering how things were like in the old shows.ZeroWolf wrote:But how would that even work...
So a case of: "squint hard enough and you'll see it connect"
There's no reason for any of these, even if it's just implied...although if they want to play that game doesn't this imply then that megatron was resurrected then ala Return of Convoy and subsequent text? I mean if you go from us g1, he was still galvatron and seemed at peace with that.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968400)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:55am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 3rd, 2018 @ 9:55am CDT
I almost got the impression, from the scene where the Matrix of Chaos was trying to possess Megatron, that this show was trying to imply that Unicron had previously used the Matrix of Chaos to turn Megatron into Galvatron, and that Megatron's having possibly discarded it at some other point was what turned him back into Megatron.
That... doesn't sound so bad in and of itself, but when set against the context of the Megatron-to-Galvatron scene from TFTM (since the TR and Potpie cartoons both implied that events akin to that movie happened in this universe's history), it really doesn't add up in that regard.
That... doesn't sound so bad in and of itself, but when set against the context of the Megatron-to-Galvatron scene from TFTM (since the TR and Potpie cartoons both implied that events akin to that movie happened in this universe's history), it really doesn't add up in that regard.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968473)
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
Dude, we all pretty much hate on this series in this thread. You're thinking of other threads where it's hard to be negative without people piling on. (In which case, keep being negative as long as it's in the rules and let the munkky pilers break the rules)
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2018 @ 3:24pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:Well it's over. I know some people here don't like me ranting about the negatives, and how I shojldn't watch the show if I don't like it, so I promise this will be my last rant post (everyone else gets away with it
Dude, we all pretty much hate on this series in this thread. You're thinking of other threads where it's hard to be negative without people piling on. (In which case, keep being negative as long as it's in the rules and let the munkky pilers break the rules)
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968496)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 3rd, 2018 @ 6:09pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 3rd, 2018 @ 6:09pm CDT
1st, I am good with Optimal Optimus. I like that they finally made him a canon prime.
2nd, dammit, they had to kill Megatron. At least he got a final "Oh shit" line in and a good ole "Shut up" line. Those 2 things are gonna stay with me personally.
The waste of Predaking and Volcanicus though suck. And they really could have done without resurrecting Optimus Prime.
2nd, dammit, they had to kill Megatron. At least he got a final "Oh shit" line in and a good ole "Shut up" line. Those 2 things are gonna stay with me personally.
The waste of Predaking and Volcanicus though suck. And they really could have done without resurrecting Optimus Prime.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968578)
Posted by Va'al on July 4th, 2018 @ 1:46am CDT
Posted by Va'al on July 4th, 2018 @ 1:46am CDT
In case you missed the news, we've finally arrived at the final issue of the final chapter of the final part of the Prime Wars trilogy animated series from Machinima - that's right, Power of the Primes has reached its tenth episode, currently available on both streaming service go90 (for US territories) and their official Tumblr page here.
Give it a look, let us know what you think, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub discussion boards!
Give it a look, let us know what you think, and join the discussion in the Energon Pub discussion boards!
The final battle between Megatronus and the Transformers leads to unforeseen consequences that will have a startling impact on Cybertron and the entire Transformers universe.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968581)
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 4th, 2018 @ 2:07am CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 4th, 2018 @ 2:07am CDT
im getting a feeling that this whole thing must have taken place right before the great upgrade when they all became maximals and predacons because of the mention of future generations and primal prime being the new leader or maybe not this whole series never made any canonical sense
and then there's starscream, WTH! 
and then there's starscream, WTH!
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968588)
Posted by ToaLeePrime on July 4th, 2018 @ 4:14am CDT
Posted by ToaLeePrime on July 4th, 2018 @ 4:14am CDT
I'll admit that seeing Optimal Optimus and Optimus Prime was kinda neat. This series overall though... ugh. So underwhelming.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968603)
Posted by Randomhero on July 4th, 2018 @ 7:15am CDT
It was never intended to be part of any established fiction. G1 or Beast Wars. It’s Generations the series. Don’t try and shoehorn it into any established fiction. Transformers fought, the war ended and this is what happened after.
Posted by Randomhero on July 4th, 2018 @ 7:15am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:im getting a feeling that this whole thing must have taken place right before the great upgrade when they all became maximals and predacons because of the mention of future generations and primal prime being the new leader or maybe not this whole series never made any canonical sense
and then there's starscream, WTH!
It was never intended to be part of any established fiction. G1 or Beast Wars. It’s Generations the series. Don’t try and shoehorn it into any established fiction. Transformers fought, the war ended and this is what happened after.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968634)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2018 @ 9:43am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2018 @ 9:43am CDT
Optimus Primal in the Beast Wars cartoon was never the same kind of faction-wide leader that Optimus Prime was in the G1 cartoon. He was only the captain of a small unit of Maximals who were the crew members of his ship. The entire Maximal faction on Cybertron was governed by the High Council, presided by the Maximal Elders, who reigned over the governing state known as the Maximal Imperium.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968692)
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 3:54pm CDT
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 3:54pm CDT
This wasnt as bad as the last two seasons/series. I truly wished this story was more fleshed out as this would have been a good way to tell a story with the toys made from Generations/Combiner Wars/Titan Wars. A story like this with the current toy line could have almost been like G1 all over again as the toys made match the show. Instead Hasbro puts their money on RID(Aligned) and now Cyberverse to peddle more 1 step garbage. Oh well....
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968701)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 4th, 2018 @ 4:44pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 4th, 2018 @ 4:44pm CDT
Well that 1 step garbage must sell...and hasbro is a business, so going where the money is isn't a bad strategy. Also didn't the rid cast all get toys? So wouldn't that be like g1?
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968704)
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:03pm CDT
Well who knows...you have some number of actual sales to show it was a bonanza for Hasbro and the Transformers line?? It wasn't that great of a show or toy line. A lot of those figures were on clearance. Only a few notables here and there so I dont see what you're getting at. Hasbro is more than Transformers so saying RID was paramount for the company and the line of Transformers itself is highly dubious. I guess you're a fan of the RID(aligned) series so everyone must cheer lead yaah!!. The show and 97% of the toy line was garbage...yeah I said it.
(I forgot this is pro-Hasbro territory here)
So like I was saying...
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:03pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Well that 1 step garbage must sell...and hasbro is a business, so going where the money is isn't a bad strategy. Also didn't the rid cast all get toys? So wouldn't that be like g1?
Well who knows...you have some number of actual sales to show it was a bonanza for Hasbro and the Transformers line?? It wasn't that great of a show or toy line. A lot of those figures were on clearance. Only a few notables here and there so I dont see what you're getting at. Hasbro is more than Transformers so saying RID was paramount for the company and the line of Transformers itself is highly dubious. I guess you're a fan of the RID(aligned) series so everyone must cheer lead yaah!!. The show and 97% of the toy line was garbage...yeah I said it.
(I forgot this is pro-Hasbro territory here)
So like I was saying...
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968705)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:22pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:22pm CDT
I was thinking about the character deaths in this show, and the ones before, it, and I compiled a list of all the characters to show up and the ones who died. And it's quite amazing at how much more drastic the permanently kill rate was in PotP.
The list shows characters who showed up in the series, and if they died. If they were resurrected in a later series, it is mentioned there.
List:
Titans Return
Power of the Primes
so a ton more permanent deaths in PotP, and amazing how each was killed in the series and who ultimately killed the most:
Megatronus killed:
Optimus Prime (shot)
Predaking (beheaded)
Solus Prime (blasted)
Rodimus Cron/Unicron killed:
Devastator (blasted)
Computron 2nd time (blasted)
Victorion (beheaded)
Sludge/Volcanicus (Unicron energy)
Overlord killed:
Menasor 2nd time (aggressive back rubbreak neck (hehe))
Mistress of Flame (super sentai moves)
Windblade killed:
Menasor 1st time (made him sushi)
Megatron killed:
Starscream with help from Prime (shot)
Overlord (annihilated)
Menasor killed:
Computron 1st time (stomped his face in)
Maxima (beat her silly)
Trypticon killed:
Metroplex (Godzilla stomp)
all the generic seekers
keeled over on himself to die
Optimal Optimus killed:
Megatron (annihilated)
Rodimus Cron (spiritual, ripped Matrix of chaos out)
Rodimus Prime killed:
himself spiritually (remove matrix willingly)
Solus Prime killed:
herself
Megatronus (both into the well)
So I think I got them all. Rodimus Cron/Unicron was definitely the killer of the series. Windblade was the only one to show up in all 3 and not die in any way.
Fun facts, hope you enjoyed!
The list shows characters who showed up in the series, and if they died. If they were resurrected in a later series, it is mentioned there.
List:
- Combiner Wars
Menasor (died, resurrected)
Computron (died, resurrected)
Maxima (died, permanent)
Windblade
Optimus Prime
Megatron
Long Haul
Scrapper
Scavenger
Rodimus Prime
Mistress of Flame
Starscream (died)
Victorion
Devastator
Metroplex
Fort Max's face
Titans Return
- Trypticon (died, permanent)
Starscream (shown to not have died, then die again)
Perceptor
Windblade
Stormclash
Menasor
Computron
Victorion
Devastator
Megatron
Metroplex (died, permanent)
Emissary
Fort Max
Mistress of Flame (died, permanent)
Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime/Rodimus Cron (spiritual death of Rodimus Prime)
Overlord
Optimus Prime (died)
Megatronus
seekers (all died, permanent)
Power of the Primes
- Megatron (died, permanent)
Windblade
Perceptor
Grimlock
Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus (spiritual death like Rodimus Prime can apply here)
Slug
Swoop
Snarl
Sludge (died, permanent)
Volcanicus (died, permanent thanks to Sludge death)
Computron (died, permanent)
Menasor (died, permanent)
Devastator (died, permanent)
Victorion (died, permanent)
Predaking (died, permanent)
Megatronus (died, permanent)
Solus Prime (died, permanent, twice sort of)
Overlord (died, permanent)
Rodimus Cron/Hot Rod (Rodimus Cron died spiritually)
Emissary
Optimus Prime (resurrected)
Starscream (apparently never died and still won't)
so a ton more permanent deaths in PotP, and amazing how each was killed in the series and who ultimately killed the most:
Megatronus killed:
Optimus Prime (shot)
Predaking (beheaded)
Solus Prime (blasted)
Rodimus Cron/Unicron killed:
Devastator (blasted)
Computron 2nd time (blasted)
Victorion (beheaded)
Sludge/Volcanicus (Unicron energy)
Overlord killed:
Menasor 2nd time (aggressive back rubbreak neck (hehe))
Mistress of Flame (super sentai moves)
Windblade killed:
Menasor 1st time (made him sushi)
Megatron killed:
Starscream with help from Prime (shot)
Overlord (annihilated)
Menasor killed:
Computron 1st time (stomped his face in)
Maxima (beat her silly)
Trypticon killed:
Metroplex (Godzilla stomp)
all the generic seekers
keeled over on himself to die
Optimal Optimus killed:
Megatron (annihilated)
Rodimus Cron (spiritual, ripped Matrix of chaos out)
Rodimus Prime killed:
himself spiritually (remove matrix willingly)
Solus Prime killed:
herself
Megatronus (both into the well)
So I think I got them all. Rodimus Cron/Unicron was definitely the killer of the series. Windblade was the only one to show up in all 3 and not die in any way.
Fun facts, hope you enjoyed!
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968708)
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:31pm CDT
Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
Posted by bvzxa on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:31pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I was thinking about the character deaths in this show, and the ones before, it, and I compiled a list of all the characters to show up and the ones who died. And it's quite amazing at how much more drastic the permanently kill rate was in PotP.
The list shows characters who showed up in the series, and if they died. If they were resurrected in a later series, it is mentioned there.
List:Combiner Wars
Menasor (died, resurrected)
Computron (died, resurrected)
Maxima (died, permanent)
Windblade
Optimus Prime
Megatron
Long Haul
Scrapper
Scavenger
Rodimus Prime
Mistress of Flame
Starscream (died)
Victorion
Devastator
Metroplex
Fort Max's face
Titans ReturnTrypticon (died, permanent)
Starscream (shown to not have died, then die again)
Perceptor
Windblade
Stormclash
Menasor
Computron
Victorion
Devastator
Megatron
Metroplex (died, permanent)
Emissary
Fort Max
Mistress of Flame (died, permanent)
Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime/Rodimus Cron (spiritual death of Rodimus Prime)
Overlord
Optimus Prime (died)
Megatronus
seekers (all died, permanent)
Power of the PrimesMegatron (died, permanent)
Windblade
Perceptor
Grimlock
Optimus Primal/Optimal Optimus (spiritual death like Rodimus Prime can apply here)
Slug
Swoop
Snarl
Sludge (died, permanent)
Volcanicus (died, permanent thanks to Sludge death)
Computron (died, permanent)
Menasor (died, permanent)
Devastator (died, permanent)
Victorion (died, permanent)
Predaking (died, permanent)
Megatronus (died, permanent)
Solus Prime (died, permanent, twice sort of)
Overlord (died, permanent)
Rodimus Cron/Hot Rod (Rodimus Cron died spiritually)
Emissary
Optimus Prime (resurrected)
Starscream (apparently never died and still won't)
so a ton more permanent deaths in PotP, and amazing how each was killed in the series and who ultimately killed the most:
Megatronus killed:
Optimus Prime (shot)
Predaking (beheaded)
Solus Prime (blasted)
Rodimus Cron/Unicron killed:
Devastator (blasted)
Computron 2nd time (blasted)
Victorion (beheaded)
Sludge/Volcanicus (Unicron energy)
Overlord killed:
Menasor 2nd time (aggressive back rubbreak neck (hehe))
Mistress of Flame (super sentai moves)
Windblade killed:
Menasor 1st time (made him sushi)
Megatron killed:
Starscream with help from Prime (shot)
Overlord (annihilated)
Menasor killed:
Computron 1st time (stomped his face in)
Maxima (beat her silly)
Trypticon killed:
Metroplex (Godzilla stomp)
all the generic seekers
keeled over on himself to die
Optimal Optimus killed:
Megatron (annihilated)
Rodimus Cron (spiritual, ripped Matrix of chaos out)
Rodimus Prime killed:
himself spiritually (remove matrix willingly)
Solus Prime killed:
herself
Megatronus (both into the well)
So I think I got them all. Rodimus Cron/Unicron was definitely the killer of the series. Windblade was the only one to show up in all 3 and not die in any way.
Fun facts, hope you enjoyed!
Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968709)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CDT
No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CDT
bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968711)
Posted by Burn on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:45pm CDT
This thread is anything but pro-Hasbro territory, as for the rest of the site, just ignore them. Express your opinion at will (as long as it doesn't go against the forum rules) and if anyone gives you too much grief, just report the post and let the Mods deal with it.
I cannot stress enough that people are allowed to dislike things and express their opinion, just like people who like stuff can do so, we just have to learn to accept that one person may not agree with another persons opinion, but that doesn't make them right or wrong.
Posted by Burn on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:45pm CDT
bvzxa wrote:(I forgot this is pro-Hasbro territory here)
This thread is anything but pro-Hasbro territory, as for the rest of the site, just ignore them. Express your opinion at will (as long as it doesn't go against the forum rules) and if anyone gives you too much grief, just report the post and let the Mods deal with it.
I cannot stress enough that people are allowed to dislike things and express their opinion, just like people who like stuff can do so, we just have to learn to accept that one person may not agree with another persons opinion, but that doesn't make them right or wrong.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968712)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 4th, 2018 @ 5:46pm CDT
I doubt we'll see any more of this timeline to be honest, given the toylines fresh start (still betting it's another reason IDW choose now to do a reboot) if they go down this road again it will be either pre war or during. Might even be how they'll tell the story of impactor vs mirage. Of course if they do go down that route, please make sure the studio who does it has a bigger budget, and a better writing team.
Also no where did I state I was a fan of rid, I'm more of a comics fan these days. My point was that they wouldn't make one steps if they didn't sell. I mean that's why the titans returns boxsets were scrapped right? Because the ones before didn't sell. I would never want people to cheer lead, as we all have our opinions, it's just when they are presented as fact that I speak out.
Also no where did I state I was a fan of rid, I'm more of a comics fan these days. My point was that they wouldn't make one steps if they didn't sell. I mean that's why the titans returns boxsets were scrapped right? Because the ones before didn't sell. I would never want people to cheer lead, as we all have our opinions, it's just when they are presented as fact that I speak out.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968732)
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 4th, 2018 @ 9:05pm CDT
Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
Posted by Ultra Markus on July 4th, 2018 @ 9:05pm CDT
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968747)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2018 @ 11:53pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 4th, 2018 @ 11:53pm CDT
Well, there is Cyberverse coming.Ultra Markus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968760)
Posted by Burn on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:49am CDT
I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.
And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
Posted by Burn on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:49am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Well, there is Cyberverse coming.Ultra Markus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.
And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968761)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:57am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:57am CDT
Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968775)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 9:01am CDT
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 9:01am CDT
Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968778)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on July 5th, 2018 @ 9:06am CDT
Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?
Posted by Rodimus Knight on July 5th, 2018 @ 9:06am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!
Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968796)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 10:13am CDT
In this day and age of cartoons, if it's at least as amusing and quirkily charming as Sonic Boom (as not everything nowadays can be as good as DuckTales, let alone Voltron), I could dig it.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 10:13am CDT
No, I'm with ya on that. I'm not expecting much from Cyberverse, so I'm doing what I did for Rescue Bots and just hoping for something that's merely but adequately decent if not great. Like you say, It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised again.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, there is Cyberverse coming.Ultra Markus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.
And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
In this day and age of cartoons, if it's at least as amusing and quirkily charming as Sonic Boom (as not everything nowadays can be as good as DuckTales, let alone Voltron), I could dig it.
TV show, yes.ZeroWolf wrote:Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968831)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:11pm CDT
....I cannot confirm nor deny....
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:11pm CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!
Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?
....I cannot confirm nor deny....
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968832)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:13pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:13pm CDT
You're not at liberty to say, eh?Bronzewolf wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!
Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?
....I cannot confirm nor deny....
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968833)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT
LOL no, it's just my laptop's giving me grief. I just can't do that many screenshots and that much writing on my phone.
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:You're not at liberty to say, eh?Bronzewolf wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!
Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?
....I cannot confirm nor deny....
LOL no, it's just my laptop's giving me grief. I just can't do that many screenshots and that much writing on my phone.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968834)
Posted by o.supreme on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:17pm CDT
So, this is interesting...
https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/g ... 202860864/
With Go 90 shutting down end of July, I wonder if Machinima will offer an alternative platform (Youtube would make the most sense) for US residents to watch the Prime Wars series?... Also, not that I watched anything else on this channel, but I wonder what happens to the rest of go90's content?
https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/g ... 202860864/
With Go 90 shutting down end of July, I wonder if Machinima will offer an alternative platform (Youtube would make the most sense) for US residents to watch the Prime Wars series?... Also, not that I watched anything else on this channel, but I wonder what happens to the rest of go90's content?
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968835)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:19pm CDT
It's okay, we know if you told us for real you would have to kill us. Top secret stuff and all that confidential jazz.Bronzewolf wrote:Sabrblade wrote:You're not at liberty to say, eh?Bronzewolf wrote:Rodimus Knight wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Hey everybody, just wanted to let you know that some technical difficulties are holding the last couple reviews up. They'll be out soon! Thanks!
Do those difficulties have to do with sitting through the episodes?
....I cannot confirm nor deny....
LOL no, it's just my laptop's giving me grief. I just can't do that many screenshots and that much writing on my phone.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968840)
Posted by Skritz on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:44pm CDT
It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade.
Posted by Skritz on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:44pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:No, I'm with ya on that. I'm not expecting much from Cyberverse, so I'm doing what I did for Rescue Bots and just hoping for something that's merely but adequately decent if not great. Like you say, It'd be nice to be pleasantly surprised again.Burn wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Well, there is Cyberverse coming.Ultra Markus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:bvzxa wrote:Megatron is MIA to me...there wasn't a trace of him left. Obvious set up for him to return as Galvatron maybe?
No, the show is over and fully completed. And he died a good guy, completed disintegrated by the requiem blaster, with the matrix of chaos taking most of the blow. He's dead, Jim.
Thank God its over! Now if someone would want to make another G1 inspired show that's much better in every way primewars wasn't that would be great
I'll set my expectations low, and that's because of this trilogy of train wrecks.
And before you try to convince me I'm wrong, if I keep my expectations low then I can't be disappointed, BUT I can be pleasantly surprised if the shows turns out half decent.
In this day and age of cartoons, if it's at least as amusing and quirkily charming as Sonic Boom (as not everything nowadays can be as good as DuckTales, let alone Voltron), I could dig it.TV show, yes.ZeroWolf wrote:Is cyberverse another Internet show? I thought it was going to be on TV?
It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968841)
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:46pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:46pm CDT
Good thing it isn't.Skritz wrote:It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968842)
Posted by o.supreme on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:59pm CDT
"Good" Is all relative, but that's about where I am as well, only one Really Great TF show that really impresses me comes along, about every decade or so.
Transformers (1984)
Beast Wars (1996)
Car Robots (2000)
Prime (2010)
The rest range from good to horrible, but these 4 are really the breakout hits for me. I know some might think Car Robots is an odd choice, but I specifically enjoy it, over Hasbro's RiD dub, and was fortunate enough to see most of it before it aired on US TV in the fall of 2001. It came at a time when I thought we'd never go back to vehicle Transformers, and had some great new designs, as well as a fresh take on some old ones. It's quirky and stands out, but for me in a good way.
The 11 minute format just isn't long enough IMHO to tell a decent action story. Most shows that have gone to this format are the mind-numbing comedies that CN puts out. And , well... if Machinima is any indication, unfortunately we've seen how *well* a short form action series does. I mean, if its going to be on TV, I'm sure Cyberverse will have to have more coherent writers, but I've been wrong before.
Posted by o.supreme on July 5th, 2018 @ 1:59pm CDT
Skritz wrote:It would be a shame if TF Prime turned out the only good TF show of the decade.
"Good" Is all relative, but that's about where I am as well, only one Really Great TF show that really impresses me comes along, about every decade or so.
Transformers (1984)
Beast Wars (1996)
Car Robots (2000)
Prime (2010)
The rest range from good to horrible, but these 4 are really the breakout hits for me. I know some might think Car Robots is an odd choice, but I specifically enjoy it, over Hasbro's RiD dub, and was fortunate enough to see most of it before it aired on US TV in the fall of 2001. It came at a time when I thought we'd never go back to vehicle Transformers, and had some great new designs, as well as a fresh take on some old ones. It's quirky and stands out, but for me in a good way.
The 11 minute format just isn't long enough IMHO to tell a decent action story. Most shows that have gone to this format are the mind-numbing comedies that CN puts out. And , well... if Machinima is any indication, unfortunately we've seen how *well* a short form action series does. I mean, if its going to be on TV, I'm sure Cyberverse will have to have more coherent writers, but I've been wrong before.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1968865)
Posted by Burn on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CDT
They have the alternative in their Tumblr site, it's what the rest of the world had to use.
And geez it's a shitty platform.
Posted by Burn on July 5th, 2018 @ 3:59pm CDT
o.supreme wrote:So, this is interesting...
https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/g ... 202860864/
With Go 90 shutting down end of July, I wonder if Machinima will offer an alternative platform (Youtube would make the most sense) for US residents to watch the Prime Wars series?... Also, not that I watched anything else on this channel, but I wonder what happens to the rest of go90's content?
They have the alternative in their Tumblr site, it's what the rest of the world had to use.
And geez it's a shitty platform.
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1969423)
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:37am CDT
Posted by Bronzewolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:37am CDT
Well, this is it. It's the final Tuesday for Machinima's Power of Primes cartoon, and we have just more episode to catch up on before we can cover the Finale that dropped earlier today. The battle for three ancient Transformers relics continues, so read on as we take a closer look at episode 9, Megatronus Unleashed.
(Note: The following review contains spoilers fro the Power of the Primes cartoon and the Prime War trilogy)
We start exactly where 8 left us, with Rodimus Cron having just been upgraded by Unicron, standing at the entrance to the Well of Sparks, having turned against his former ally Megatronus.
Rodimus takes the first shot, and Megatronus kinda just stands there.
Real nail-biting action there, guys. Well done.
This episode also brings the return of one of my personal gripes with the last few episodes of the previous show:
*lightning flashes*
If you read any of my reviews for the previous show, you know these were sloppily put into the series in what felt like a last minute decision. They just suddenly started popping up, and didn't really feel like the flowed well with the rest of the series. The animators/screenwriters apparently decided to bring them back in this show, as they rear their ugly heads once again.
Now, this is not to say that sudden editing/tonal shifts in a show can be a bad thing. It's a slippery slope, yes, but they can sometimes work out. The cinematic shots in a previous episode were one of the biggest highlights from this show for me. They looked really cool, added something to the story, were well executed, and while they weren't there from day one, they were a welcome change. The split frames are none of those things. They feel awkward, give the show bad pacing, and leave room for some strange animation for the character that isn't currently speaking, but is forced on screen anyway.
Aside from the fact that they didn't even bother to animate his mouth, Rodimus' upgraded form suffers from some desperately bad audio mixing. He sounds muffled and distorted, and you can only hear bits and pieces of his dialogue. Between the overly loud music and Rodimus' sound difficulties, it makes this scene, and a majority of scenes after it, difficult to understand.
I don't just want to nitpick, though, so let's get on with the story. Rodimus and Megatronus finally clash, and the pay off for this scene is about as exciting as you'd expect. But, to give the show it's due credit, it is more engaging and action packed than previous episodes, with some really cool imagery thrown in for good measure. The filmography and color palette combine in certain shots to great effect. It's actually one of the most satisfying fight sequences the entire trilogy has produced.
Bane was more understandable than this.
The Autobots are finally released from their pillars of fire as Megatronus is distracted in the battle. They immediately set to work dismantling the Infinity Gauntl-sorry, the relic machine. Optimus Primal works on the Matrix of Leadership, and discovers it's calling to him. He removes it from the machine as the rest of the relics are released. This, of course, sets the target of both Megatronus and Rodimus on Primal, as they both want it for themselves. Grimlock and Windblade get blown away off the machine, and Grimlock wonders how they're alive. Windblade explains it's because Megatronus is getting weaker, although they've been shot by Megatronus several times before with no damage, so this revelation doesn't land with the power that the screenwriters I think intended. It would have been nice to see this shown in some way, make his blasters start to fizz out, make him look physically tired, etc.
Megatronus charges up a super attack as Solus begs him to stop, even though all the relics have been detached from the frame, so it isn't clear how she's still being powered. Just as the blast is about to hit the heroes, Optimus Primal uses the Matrix to protect them. Despite this, Megatronus continues the barrage in frustration. The Matrix has chosen Primal, however, and starts to transform him. For some reason, a shot of Perceptor is overlaid through this entire shot, and it's not really clear why. He's not exactly important to this scene or Primal's transformation. Or, at least, not more important than any other cast member. It doesn't help that Perceptor doesn't change his facial expression through the entire shot.
Isn't it nice to have this emotionless face slapped on top of what should be an emotional, vital scene?
The Matrix turns Primal into Optimal Optimus, fully connecting him to his Power of The Primes toy. Almost immediately he gets tackled by Rodimus Cron, who beats him to the ground. This is the second awkwardly long punching sequence in the series, where a character who should be able to at least fight back against whoever is beating them up, just get repeatedly punched in the same 1-2 motion. It gets to be strange and could have been solved by quicker editing.
Primal finally throws Rodimus off of him, but Rodimus recovers, and the battle continues into the next episode.
Can you imagine trying to explain this screenshot to someone who hasn't seen any TF show since Beast Wars?
As the series (and the trilogy) gets in to it's final moments, it feels a bit like they're trying to throw in everything they were mandated to but couldn't fit in prior. The inclusion of Megatronus' apparent grand scheme doesn't really fit, especially with the events of the previous shows. Megatronus' different attack moves are, and have been, a highlight. It gives a nice creative piece in the show, and it's honestly fun to see everything this Transformer god can do. The imagery of the Megatronus/Rodimus fight is great, as well. The pacing felt especially bad in this episode, however, and it's sad to see that the majority of it could have been solved by simple editing. As far as the actually concept of the show goes, while I can see it being a potentially controversial choice to have Optimus Primal to step into the Prime position to some, I personally have no problem with it, and enjoy just the ridiculousness of the mash up of some of these characters. We'll see how it all wraps up with the last episode!
If you haven't seen this episode yet, you can find it on the Go90 platform. Go check it out and then come back and tell me what you thought of it in the comments below. Do you agree or disagree? Please let me know! Thanks for reading, and I'll see you soon when I take a crack at the finale!
(Note: The following review contains spoilers fro the Power of the Primes cartoon and the Prime War trilogy)
We start exactly where 8 left us, with Rodimus Cron having just been upgraded by Unicron, standing at the entrance to the Well of Sparks, having turned against his former ally Megatronus.
Rodimus takes the first shot, and Megatronus kinda just stands there.
Real nail-biting action there, guys. Well done.
This episode also brings the return of one of my personal gripes with the last few episodes of the previous show:
SPLIT FRAMES!!!!
*lightning flashes*
If you read any of my reviews for the previous show, you know these were sloppily put into the series in what felt like a last minute decision. They just suddenly started popping up, and didn't really feel like the flowed well with the rest of the series. The animators/screenwriters apparently decided to bring them back in this show, as they rear their ugly heads once again.
Now, this is not to say that sudden editing/tonal shifts in a show can be a bad thing. It's a slippery slope, yes, but they can sometimes work out. The cinematic shots in a previous episode were one of the biggest highlights from this show for me. They looked really cool, added something to the story, were well executed, and while they weren't there from day one, they were a welcome change. The split frames are none of those things. They feel awkward, give the show bad pacing, and leave room for some strange animation for the character that isn't currently speaking, but is forced on screen anyway.
Aside from the fact that they didn't even bother to animate his mouth, Rodimus' upgraded form suffers from some desperately bad audio mixing. He sounds muffled and distorted, and you can only hear bits and pieces of his dialogue. Between the overly loud music and Rodimus' sound difficulties, it makes this scene, and a majority of scenes after it, difficult to understand.
I don't just want to nitpick, though, so let's get on with the story. Rodimus and Megatronus finally clash, and the pay off for this scene is about as exciting as you'd expect. But, to give the show it's due credit, it is more engaging and action packed than previous episodes, with some really cool imagery thrown in for good measure. The filmography and color palette combine in certain shots to great effect. It's actually one of the most satisfying fight sequences the entire trilogy has produced.
Bane was more understandable than this.
The Autobots are finally released from their pillars of fire as Megatronus is distracted in the battle. They immediately set to work dismantling the Infinity Gauntl-sorry, the relic machine. Optimus Primal works on the Matrix of Leadership, and discovers it's calling to him. He removes it from the machine as the rest of the relics are released. This, of course, sets the target of both Megatronus and Rodimus on Primal, as they both want it for themselves. Grimlock and Windblade get blown away off the machine, and Grimlock wonders how they're alive. Windblade explains it's because Megatronus is getting weaker, although they've been shot by Megatronus several times before with no damage, so this revelation doesn't land with the power that the screenwriters I think intended. It would have been nice to see this shown in some way, make his blasters start to fizz out, make him look physically tired, etc.
Megatronus charges up a super attack as Solus begs him to stop, even though all the relics have been detached from the frame, so it isn't clear how she's still being powered. Just as the blast is about to hit the heroes, Optimus Primal uses the Matrix to protect them. Despite this, Megatronus continues the barrage in frustration. The Matrix has chosen Primal, however, and starts to transform him. For some reason, a shot of Perceptor is overlaid through this entire shot, and it's not really clear why. He's not exactly important to this scene or Primal's transformation. Or, at least, not more important than any other cast member. It doesn't help that Perceptor doesn't change his facial expression through the entire shot.
Isn't it nice to have this emotionless face slapped on top of what should be an emotional, vital scene?
The Matrix turns Primal into Optimal Optimus, fully connecting him to his Power of The Primes toy. Almost immediately he gets tackled by Rodimus Cron, who beats him to the ground. This is the second awkwardly long punching sequence in the series, where a character who should be able to at least fight back against whoever is beating them up, just get repeatedly punched in the same 1-2 motion. It gets to be strange and could have been solved by quicker editing.
Primal finally throws Rodimus off of him, but Rodimus recovers, and the battle continues into the next episode.
Can you imagine trying to explain this screenshot to someone who hasn't seen any TF show since Beast Wars?
As the series (and the trilogy) gets in to it's final moments, it feels a bit like they're trying to throw in everything they were mandated to but couldn't fit in prior. The inclusion of Megatronus' apparent grand scheme doesn't really fit, especially with the events of the previous shows. Megatronus' different attack moves are, and have been, a highlight. It gives a nice creative piece in the show, and it's honestly fun to see everything this Transformer god can do. The imagery of the Megatronus/Rodimus fight is great, as well. The pacing felt especially bad in this episode, however, and it's sad to see that the majority of it could have been solved by simple editing. As far as the actually concept of the show goes, while I can see it being a potentially controversial choice to have Optimus Primal to step into the Prime position to some, I personally have no problem with it, and enjoy just the ridiculousness of the mash up of some of these characters. We'll see how it all wraps up with the last episode!
If you haven't seen this episode yet, you can find it on the Go90 platform. Go check it out and then come back and tell me what you thought of it in the comments below. Do you agree or disagree? Please let me know! Thanks for reading, and I'll see you soon when I take a crack at the finale!
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1969425)
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:49am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on July 8th, 2018 @ 1:49am CDT
Almost caught up now Bronze just one left! Then you're freeeeeeee...
just one left! Then you're freeeeeeee...
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1969438)
Posted by BumbleDouche on July 8th, 2018 @ 4:04am CDT
Posted by BumbleDouche on July 8th, 2018 @ 4:04am CDT
I love these reviews, but this show (and its predecessors) are such a convoluted, nonsensical mess that it's impossible to do anything but laugh, they really deserve more ridicule.
I mean, G1 & even the exalted Beast Wars had their moments with goofy scripts, exposition or plotlines, but the "nostalgia goggles" allow us to ignore all but the most obvious missteps in storytelling... This show, on the other hand, acts as if it *wants* incoherent drivel & craptastic fight sequences to be their defining legacy for future generations lol
I mean, G1 & even the exalted Beast Wars had their moments with goofy scripts, exposition or plotlines, but the "nostalgia goggles" allow us to ignore all but the most obvious missteps in storytelling... This show, on the other hand, acts as if it *wants* incoherent drivel & craptastic fight sequences to be their defining legacy for future generations lol
Re: ARE WE THERE YET?!?!?!?!?: Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 8 REVIEW (1970256)
Posted by WreckerJack on July 11th, 2018 @ 2:57am CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on July 11th, 2018 @ 2:57am CDT
Since it has been stated that Verizon is pulling the plug on Go90.com (and supposedly the app) many fans have been wondering where they can watch Power Of The Primes. The answer is that Power Of The Primes is now on Machinima's YouTube Channel. If you would like a playlist of all the current episodes, click here. All 10 episodes are in full HD for your viewing pleasure. Machinima's YouTube also hosts Titans Return while Hasbro's YouTube channel hosts Combiner Wars. It appears that the Prime Wars Tumblr page still works for Power Of The Primes fans that don't want to use YouTube. Enjoy!
