Till-all-R1 wrote:For me both Rodimus and Motormaster chould have been Leaders
12 years ago, they would have been. But with what Leader-class has become... Rodimus could
maybe have scraped Leader with a simpler transformation and a worse camper, but no way in hell could Motormaster have gotten away with it. Needed both the size and the ability to have
multiple sets of heavy ratchet joints due to how they did Menasor, as well as for extra parts for the cab alone to turn into a G1-accurate robot when the G1 robot mode was made of both cab and trailer. As a bonus it means he's a full cab and trailer...
without being a dwarf truck when next to the other Stunticons like the G1 toy was.
Till-all-R1 wrote:Now I get that at least Motormaster needs the trailer to create Menasaur, thus you couldn't technically have a "Voyager" release of him. And to an extent same for Rodimus because of the alt mode and you don't tend to see him without the trailer. But personally I'd have been fine just buying him for the bot only to display as I don't plan on interacting with the battle platform.
Well, that sucks for you and makes it a pity there wasn't an option to buy without. But I think it's better he have it.
Till-all-R1 wrote:Another "space issue" here. But for Motormaster I may actually build Menasaur once I "collect them all". I just feel Commander Class was a bit much for these two, personally. Especially compared to a behemoth like Jetfire, I just don't see where the "extra" resources were put into Rodimus when Leader Prime and magnus both came with trailers.
Optimus came with a
watered-down, stretched-thin miniscule JOKE of a trailer more suited to the
Classics Deluxe (which FYI is smaller than the G1 toy!) than to the Optimus it came with. It's really a glorified Micromaster platform and only shines as part of that play pattern.
Magnus' trailer looks and sizes better, but that's largely due to it being a car carrier and thus being able to be more open and lattice-y (though it also helps that the cab robot has a simple transformation), and the parts are fairly hollow.
Rodimus' camper is both significantly bigger and substantially more solid, with a fully-articulated turret that's its own full unit, a hinged rear door with simulated support hydraulics, a ramp separate from that, a hinged forward compartment for storing accessories, and a pull-out drawer for storing his blast effects. Rodimus himself has a complex transformation and a good bit of heft to him, and went above and beyond by having a full independent vehicle mode without the camper instead of being, well...
...this.
Till-all-R1 wrote:As a kid sure, I would have played with them for hours and enjoyed utilizing said trailer but now all I do is display them in Bot mode and the trailer is stored away if not sold off.
Then why do you even still buy the transforming versions at all? It's kinda sounding like you no longer value that aspect.
Till-all-R1 wrote:I would definitely place Jetfire at the top for Commander releases, with SG version a second because of the coolness factor of that deco! And he'll probably stay there for a very long time if all they do are Rodimus Prime types of releases, basically a Voyager bot with extras.
I don't think Motormaster really counts as that considering he forms the lion's share of Menasor (in fact, he can basically be a standalone version with skeletal limbs that stands as tall as Jetfire), and Armada Optimus sure as hell doesn't count as that. I also wonder if you'll still feel that way when they give us a Commander-class G1 Optimus and with it a trailer that blows the Earthrise joke out of the water.
Till-all-R1 wrote:I mean Technically Springer should have been a Leader being that he's a triple changer and stands almost as tall as OP.
Except no. Springer's engineering isn't as overdesigned as Optimus' (or Legacy Blitzwing's), nor is he as dense or as armed as Astrotrain, nor does he have any other sort of accessory that would drive him up to Leader. As for standing almost as tall as Optimus... that's more because
WFC Optimus is shorter than he should be. I stuck with Combiner Wars Optimus instead of getting Siege or ER (not that I ever saw SIEGE on shelves lol) for that very reason.