Seibertron.com Energon Pub Forums

Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:When this happens, I'm gonna start a new thread called "Told you so".

no no cobo! what said was the rumor of prowl being in CW but not as devy, gives credence to your prime combiner theory

BAM!
WORD UP, HOMIE!!!!!!

Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:only thing that bugs me, is why the secrecy? they unveiled superion and menasor however many months ago. if they have a (im assuming near completion) devastator, why not show us?

Toy companies are CRAZY about non-disclosure. I worked for a small toy design and invention studio in Chicago for a bit. I've never worked in a more guarded and paranoid environment. Don't know why Hasbro would be worried about it. They own every IP and TM and CW related to TF there is, and it's not like these toys are "never before seen". They're re-imagined versions of old toys. It's just embedded in toy maker culture.

Plus, if they told us, we would have nothing to talk about for the next 6 months?


Pardon my ignorance, would anyone mind defining/explaining "scramble city"?
thanx

ZeroWolf wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

shajaki wrote:

Cobotron wrote:When this happens, I'm gonna start a new thread called "Told you so".

no no cobo! what said was the rumor of prowl being in CW but not as devy, gives credence to your prime combiner theory

BAM!
WORD UP, HOMIE!!!!!!

The only flaw in your team plan is that at the minute moment, I doubt prowl is going to play ball with prime

Wolfman Jake wrote:Even if Hasbro doesn't officially do an Autobot cars team for Combiner Wars Optimus Prime, I can see this as a project the TFCC would take on down the line a ways, especially if they can simply redeco the Stunticons and tool a few new heads as needed. Honestly, Hasbro is sitting on a gold mine right now with the possibilities for reuse of these molds. It's an exciting time to be a Transformers fan!

Cobotron wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Even if Hasbro doesn't officially do an Autobot cars team for Combiner Wars Optimus Prime, I can see this as a project the TFCC would take on down the line a ways, especially if they can simply redeco the Stunticons and tool a few new heads as needed. Honestly, Hasbro is sitting on a gold mine right now with the possibilities for reuse of these molds. It's an exciting time to be a Transformers fan!

Speculation is fun!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Cobotron wrote:WAIT! I got it. We are on the train to Repaintsville, next stop Headresculptopolis, right?
Breakdown - Sideswipe
Dragstrip - Mirage
Offroad - Ironhide OK. He can be a pick'm up truck.
Deadend - Jazz? Wheeljack? Tracks?? maybe Prowl?

Well, box 'em up. Call it exclusive. Jack up the price. Shake Target's hand. Merry X-mas$
Send me one for thinking of it.

Cobotron wrote:Here's a fun game.
I posted this in the NYCC Coverage thread a while back.

Cobotron wrote:WAIT! I got it. We are on the train to Repaintsville, next stop Headresculptopolis, right?
Breakdown - Sideswipe
Dragstrip - Mirage
Offroad - Ironhide OK. He can be a pick'm up truck.
Deadend - Jazz? Wheeljack? Tracks?? maybe Prowl?

Well, box 'em up. Call it exclusive. Jack up the price. Shake Target's hand. Merry X-mas$
Send me one for thinking of it.

Anybody wanna play along?

photos can be found here:
http://www.seibertron.com/events/gallery.php?event_id=378

ZeroWolf wrote:They could also create new characters or go back to micromasters for names. I can see the 2016 club exclusives coming from these and botcon toys (maybe an operation: combination set )

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Cobotron wrote:Pardon my ignorance, would anyone mind defining/explaining "scramble city"?
thanx

It refers to the style of combiners featured in the 1985 season of the original Transformers cartoon. Superion, Menasor, Defensor, and Bruticus had a similar design of a larger, central figure being the torso and head of the robot, while the other four members form the arms and legs. However, you can make any of those four smaller robots any of those appendages (arms or legs), so each gestalt has multiple configurations. Plus, they were cross compatible, thanks to a universal system of ports and pegs, so you could mix and match from different teams. This wasn't advertised in the cartoon proper, but it was the crux of the Japanese only featurette "Scramble City," hence the moniker for this particular kind of combiner design. Scramble City also featured Metroplex and Trypticon. Interestingly enough, the original G1 Metroplex was ALSO compatible with the "Scramble City" combiners. There are various ways you can kind of stick them on to Metroplex's body for some kind of "powered up" mode. I think this is the result of the toys being designed for such cross-play compatibility for Diaclone. When Transformers took off, the toys were repurposed as new characters for the ever expanding franchise. Again, the feature wasn't emphasized by Hasbro, beyond Metroplex's instruction sheet, but it was given more attention when released by Takara.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The scramble city combiners weren't from Diaclone. They were some of the first new sculpt Transformers. Devastator and Raiden were the only combiners from Diaclone used in G1.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The scramble city combiners weren't from Diaclone. They were some of the first new sculpt Transformers. Devastator and Raiden were the only combiners from Diaclone used in G1.

Cobotron wrote:Were there other combiners from Diaclone that weren't used?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The scramble city combiners weren't from Diaclone. They were some of the first new sculpt Transformers. Devastator and Raiden were the only combiners from Diaclone used in G1.

As explained before Metroplex and the first four Scramble City combiners (Bruticus, Menasor, Superion and Defensor) were originally Diaclone designs, but used for Transformers instead. The Team Leaders (Onslaught, Motormaster, Silverbolt and Hot Spot) could connect to Metroplex's City Mode via their third Base Modes, while the limbs could connect to Metroplex in Robot Mode via hidden sockets in the legs and shoulders.

Yes, from all four teams.

Cobotron wrote:Were there other combiners from Diaclone that weren't used?

Diaclone had a couple combining sets, but aside from Raiden and Devastator, none had individual robot modes:

- DiaBattles
- Battle Buffalo
- Big Powered
- Gats Blocker
- Warudoros

Courtesy of the Pre-Transformers Page and Super Toy Archive.

shajaki wrote:so... taken with a grain of salt of coarse... we'll have a prime torso, that much we know for sure. and if prowl is part of CW, but not part of devastator, it could could give more leeway to the notion of a "prime+G1 car bots" combiner. which i assume would be retooled stunticons.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Well, looks like someone decided my hopes for the return of Omega Prime weren't dead enough.

Cobotron wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The scramble city combiners weren't from Diaclone. They were some of the first new sculpt Transformers. Devastator and Raiden were the only combiners from Diaclone used in G1.

As explained before Metroplex and the first four Scramble City combiners (Bruticus, Menasor, Superion and Defensor) were originally Diaclone designs, but used for Transformers instead. The Team Leaders (Onslaught, Motormaster, Silverbolt and Hot Spot) could connect to Metroplex's City Mode via their third Base Modes, while the limbs could connect to Metroplex in Robot Mode via hidden sockets in the legs and shoulders.

Yes, from all four teams.

Cobotron wrote:Were there other combiners from Diaclone that weren't used?

Diaclone had a couple combining sets, but aside from Raiden and Devastator, none had individual robot modes:

- DiaBattles
- Battle Buffalo
- Big Powered
- Gats Blocker
- Warudoros

Courtesy of the Pre-Transformers Page and Super Toy Archive.

Jelze, you are amazing. You're like our very own Rewind.
You just confirmed something awesome for me. I have a bunch of the parts for Gats Blocker. Now I have reference to see if I have the whole thing. It's probably a KO of some sort, but it would still be cool If its complete.
Those two websites are great too. Had never seen them before. Always need more Microman reference.
Well done friend!