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Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 2:05 pm
by Mirimus
o.supreme wrote:I mean I get sideways glances from some people when I tell them I spent $200 on a 24 inch tall Transformer. Or they look at my wife like " you let him do that?" Which is especially annoying since I am the sole income earner for our family.


Ask these people which of your bills they'd like to start paying...

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:22 pm
by ExciKaiser
SpaceEagle wrote:
o.supreme wrote:Honestly, it's not just these items,I'm not sure how any company making extreme high end. Collectibles exists. I mean they look great, but I can't think of a single person, even the most hardcore fan of any characters TF, Star Wars, Marvel, DC, whatever....that would want a statue of said character that costs upwards of $1000.

I mean I get sideways glances from some people when I tell them I spent $200 on a 24 inch tall Transformer. Or they look at my wife like " you let him do that?" Which is especially annoying since I am the sole income earner for our family.

I can't imagine the conversation around a $2000 Joker Statue :lol:


The same thought always pops in my head whenever I see this things...like, sure your money do what you want with it but like...a grand for some big statue that'll just...I dunno, look pretty in the living room? Especially odd considering this is based off of a toy that's significantly cheaper...and said toy can ACTUALLY be played with, transform, yadda yadda. At least 200 buckaroos will get you a massive toy that can pose as you see fit and can transform (Earthrise Scorponok, for example), but a grand for something like this is definitely a niche I can't understand.


While I agree, there's definitely worse on my opinon on the collectible market : Busts.

I'll really, never, never understand the point of busts. Transformers or any other franchise.

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:41 pm
by -Kanrabat-
ExciKaiser wrote:While I agree, there's definitely worse on my opinon on the collectible market : Busts.

I'll really, never, never understand the point of busts. Transformers or any other franchise.


Mei neither. I find them creepy and unattractive.
Unless it's the classic ones from the Antique Roman era.

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Those are freaking awesome.

But with a modern character with a modern design in colors? It just doesn't work for me.

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All of my nopes.

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 10:16 pm
by 1984forever
I don’t know who buys these things. I’ve been inside my share of luxury apartments on Park Ave, 5th Ave, Central Park West etc. and I have yet to see a sci-fi statue. The closest would be Ralph Lauren’s suit of Storm Trooper armor.

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2022 11:43 pm
by Emerje
1984forever wrote:I don’t know who buys these things. I’ve been inside my share of luxury apartments on Park Ave, 5th Ave, Central Park West etc. and I have yet to see a sci-fi statue. The closest would be Ralph Lauren’s suit of Storm Trooper armor.

It doesn't have to be that sort of person that buys these. These statues are made for people who are fans of a show or a comic or whatever, but don't necessarily want to buy a "toy", just something that'll look good on a shelf. These are for people who want something sizeable that represents something they liked from that series. As expensive as these statues are, the people buying them are probably spending less in a year on statues than many of us are spending in a year on toys, even if they're buying just one $3K statue. If you ask the average person on the street what sounds more acceptable, $1K in 20 action figures or $1K in 3 character art statues, they're probably going to say the statues. Over on MyFigureCollection.com there's a lot of people who post pictures of their anime figure collections that are loaded with $300+ statues and $800+ dolls and in many cases they're teens and 20-somethings and not even American.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Mei neither. I find them creepy and unattractive.
Unless it's the classic ones from the Antique Roman era.

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Those are freaking awesome.

But with a modern character with a modern design in colors? It just doesn't work for me.

Image

All of my nopes.

Fun fact, all those famous white marble Greek and Roman statues were originally painted over, but in many cases the "archeologists" (using that term loosely) removed whatever paint was left because they thought it looked better. Scientists have used techniques to pick out what color pigment they were originally painted in thanks to remaining traces in the stone.

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Emerje

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:07 am
by ZeroWolf
I never knew that, thanks Emerje! So cultures like the Romans were the first minature painters :lol: (Okay they aren't minis, but my point stands!)

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 3:50 am
by primalxconvoy
I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:13 am
by -Kanrabat-
Emerje wrote:Fun fact, all those famous white marble Greek and Roman statues were originally painted over, but in many cases the "archeologists" (using that term loosely) removed whatever paint was left because they thought it looked better. Scientists have used techniques to pick out what color pigment they were originally painted in thanks to remaining traces in the stone.

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Emerje



Oh yeah, I remember that fact.
One more proof that like journalists, historians either frame/lie/mistake the events all the time and to know the real truth, one needs to dig deeper.

Made me remember about that belief we had for hundreds of years that the Egyptian pyramids were built by slaves until we found the ledgers that proved that they were built by regular paid workers.

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 8:51 am
by william-james88
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Emerje wrote:Fun fact, all those famous white marble Greek and Roman statues were originally painted over, but in many cases the "archeologists" (using that term loosely) removed whatever paint was left because they thought it looked better. Scientists have used techniques to pick out what color pigment they were originally painted in thanks to remaining traces in the stone.

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Emerje



Oh yeah, I remember that fact.
One more proof that like journalists, historians either frame/lie/mistake the events all the time and to know the real truth, one needs to dig deeper.

Made me remember about that belief we had for hundreds of years that the Egyptian pyramids were built by slaves until we found the ledgers that proved that they were built by regular paid workers.


Excuse me, I think we all know who really built the pyramids.

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Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 10:39 am
by Sabrblade
william-james88 wrote:Excuse me, I think we all know who really built the pyramids.

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Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:14 pm
by Fires_Of_Inferno
I imagine that things like these are more targeted to youtubers who can afford/are given these high-end products who then hype other people up to buy them. It worked with Unicron, but with statues... Non-transforming Transformers are always a hard sell in the first place, but a statue that looks like it should transform because it's made with all the kibble that the toy has? I can see why that's a dumb idea. If I want to buy a big statue of Godzilla, I want it to look like what I see on screen. I don't want it to have non-functioning joints and seam lines that mirror a Godzilla toy.

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:30 pm
by ZeroWolf
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I imagine that things like these are more targeted to youtubers who can afford/are given these high-end products who then hype other people up to buy them. It worked with Unicron, but with statues... Non-transforming Transformers are always a hard sell in the first place, but a statue that looks like it should transform because it's made with all the kibble that the toy has? I can see why that's a dumb idea. If I want to buy a big statue of Godzilla, I want it to look like what I see on screen. I don't want it to have non-functioning joints and seam lines that mirror a Godzilla toy.

How about seam lines that make it look like a costume ala the original 50s/60s era costumes.

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:38 pm
by Fires_Of_Inferno
ZeroWolf wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I imagine that things like these are more targeted to youtubers who can afford/are given these high-end products who then hype other people up to buy them. It worked with Unicron, but with statues... Non-transforming Transformers are always a hard sell in the first place, but a statue that looks like it should transform because it's made with all the kibble that the toy has? I can see why that's a dumb idea. If I want to buy a big statue of Godzilla, I want it to look like what I see on screen. I don't want it to have non-functioning joints and seam lines that mirror a Godzilla toy.

How about seam lines that make it look like a costume ala the original 50s/60s era costumes.


Ohh, good question! If it's something like that then honestly I would hope that it also has something like a removeable/replaceable head piece so the actor wearing the suit is visible. That would be pretty awesome!

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2022 2:48 pm
by ZeroWolf
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:I imagine that things like these are more targeted to youtubers who can afford/are given these high-end products who then hype other people up to buy them. It worked with Unicron, but with statues... Non-transforming Transformers are always a hard sell in the first place, but a statue that looks like it should transform because it's made with all the kibble that the toy has? I can see why that's a dumb idea. If I want to buy a big statue of Godzilla, I want it to look like what I see on screen. I don't want it to have non-functioning joints and seam lines that mirror a Godzilla toy.

How about seam lines that make it look like a costume ala the original 50s/60s era costumes.


Ohh, good question! If it's something like that then honestly I would hope that it also has something like a removeable/replaceable head piece so the actor wearing the suit is visible. That would be pretty awesome!

I've seen vinyls that are similar to that concept, recreating the likeness of the first actor to wear the costume. I'd be surprised if there hasn't been high end products...with the amount of Tokusatsu content, there would be plenty to fill a line with

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:48 am
by Emerje
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...

What are you, 80 or something? :lol: That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.

Emerje

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:15 am
by ZeroWolf
Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...

What are you, 80 or something? :lol: That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.

Emerje

I favour the cad files option, as that seems the most likely.

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 2:40 am
by primalxconvoy
Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...

What are you, 80 or something? :lol: That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.

Emerje


Methinks you misinterpreted it. I meant that they took the toys, posed them, covered them in a thin layer of PoP, then painted them to look "all artistic-like" and then expected to sell them off for a pretty penny...

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 6:56 am
by Emerje
primalxconvoy wrote:
Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...

What are you, 80 or something? :lol: That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.

Emerje


Methinks you misinterpreted it. I meant that they took the toys, posed them, covered them in a thin layer of PoP, then painted them to look "all artistic-like" and then expected to sell them off for a pretty penny...

That's even worse! Not only is that incredibly impractical (why not say super glue?) since you'd lose all the details and have to sculpt in new ones, it would be too small.

Emerje

Re: Prime 1 Studio Licensed Transformers Statues Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 8:10 am
by primalxconvoy
Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
Emerje wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:I'm sure the R&D on those Siege statues wasn't that much. They probably just bought a bunch of the original toys, dipped them in plaster of Paris and called it a day...

What are you, 80 or something? :lol: That's too expensive. They either were given the cad files by the animation production team or scanned the original figures and modified them as necessary. I doubt they sculpted these by hand.

Emerje


Methinks you misinterpreted it. I meant that they took the toys, posed them, covered them in a thin layer of PoP, then painted them to look "all artistic-like" and then expected to sell them off for a pretty penny...

That's even worse! Not only is that incredibly impractical (why not say super glue?) since you'd lose all the details and have to sculpt in new ones, it would be too small.

Emerje


Who are we to question art? Pretty soon, artificial intelligence will take it over anyway:

- https://youtu.be/U1cF9QCu1rQ