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Sowndwave76 wrote:Well first, I meant using those colors, and more specifically just more of a Decepticon-ish palette rather than one that’s a Chromedome, Roadbuster, warmer, earth tone type. I didn’t literally mean the exact same deco.
The head and face sculpt are obvsly much different that Needlenose’s., which I personally like better.

There's a long standing theory that at some point Windsweeper and Dogfight got swapped in production back in the 80s. Windsweeper has chromed weapons like Triggerbots Backstreet and Override while Dogfight has regular guns like Triggercons Ruckus and Crankcase.

o.supreme wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Never thought I'd see the day when the Deluxe Insecticons would receive an official release? Now, akin to the Dinobots. Time for that Six-Bot Insecticon Gestalt next!

Well there's 7 members. I do think it would have been cool during PotP but now that Hasbro is going for super accurate depictions ( whether from toy or animation) I doubt we'll ever get something like an Insecticon combiner.

There's always core class. I'm thinking Kickback and Ransack as legs, Shrapnel and Chop-Shop as arms with pincher-like claws, Bombshell and Barrage as the torso and Venom on the back to give it wings.

Emerje

o.supreme wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Never thought I'd see the day when the Deluxe Insecticons would receive an official release? Now, akin to the Dinobots. Time for that Six-Bot Insecticon Gestalt next!

Well there's 7 members. I do think it would have been cool during PotP but now that Hasbro is going for super accurate depictions ( whether from toy or animation) I doubt we'll ever get something like an Insecticon combiner.

Quite right. Completely forgot about Venom. Yet, in light of Volcanicus and Combiner Wars in general. Never say never when it comes to retroactive Gestalts.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Never thought I'd see the day when the Deluxe Insecticons would receive an official release? Now, akin to the Dinobots. Time for that Six-Bot Insecticon Gestalt next!

Well there's 7 members. I do think it would have been cool during PotP but now that Hasbro is going for super accurate depictions ( whether from toy or animation) I doubt we'll ever get something like an Insecticon combiner.

Quite right. Completely forgot about Venom. Yet, in light of Volcanicus and Combiner Wars in general. Never say never when it comes to retroactive Gestalts.

How about the Best Wars combiners? They have yet to be remade.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Never thought I'd see the day when the Deluxe Insecticons would receive an official release? Now, akin to the Dinobots. Time for that Six-Bot Insecticon Gestalt next!

Well there's 7 members. I do think it would have been cool during PotP but now that Hasbro is going for super accurate depictions ( whether from toy or animation) I doubt we'll ever get something like an Insecticon combiner.

Quite right. Completely forgot about Venom. Yet, in light of Volcanicus and Combiner Wars in general. Never say never when it comes to retroactive Gestalts.

How about the Beast Wars combiners? They have yet to be remade.

I've championed those for a long time. Magnaboss in particular could do with a modern overhaul. Tripredacus, still one of the best designed combiners to date. Self contained and balanced, with minimal kibble.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Never thought I'd see the day when the Deluxe Insecticons would receive an official release? Now, akin to the Dinobots. Time for that Six-Bot Insecticon Gestalt next!

Well there's 7 members. I do think it would have been cool during PotP but now that Hasbro is going for super accurate depictions ( whether from toy or animation) I doubt we'll ever get something like an Insecticon combiner.

Quite right. Completely forgot about Venom. Yet, in light of Volcanicus and Combiner Wars in general. Never say never when it comes to retroactive Gestalts.

How about the Beast Wars combiners? They have yet to be remade.

I've championed those for a long time. Magnaboss in particular could do with a modern overhaul. Tripredacus, still one of the best designed combiners to date. Self contained and balanced, with minimal kibble.

Too bad all that translucent plastic has made Tripredacus so fragile.

Sabrblade wrote:Too bad all that translucent plastic has made Tripredacus so fragile.

The one (big) flaw. That's the part that would benefit from a modern redux. Whereas the top heavy mess that is Magnaboss would need a lot of work. Especially when it comes to making Silverbolt and Ironhide look decent in bot mode, too.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:How about the Beast Wars combiners? They have yet to be remade.

I have these and I think they are great, especially since they match with all other combiners of the era.

But in all serious though, I wouldn't mind seeing another shot at newer versions of the classic 3 member TriPredacus and Magnaboss, especially since they could do Selects versions of BWII Tripledacus and Magnaboss II out of them

If Hasbro wanted to release a Commander Class Octane that would interest me.

Till-all-R1 wrote:If Hasbro wanted to release a Commander Class Octane that would interest me.

A leader would be enough, but for PERFECTION, commander would be the right class.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:If Hasbro wanted to release a Commander Class Octane that would interest me.

A leader would be enough, but for PERFECTION, commander would be the right class.

Yeah, not saying it’s right or wrong, but Hastak is trying to accurately scale bot modes together, rather than put a character into a class based on which budget would do the most justice for an individual’s ideal engineering needs.
Since we’re getting a leader class Springer, I’m going to bet any future triple-changers will follow suit.

I was recently telling a friend that I thought next year would be really quiet on the collecting front…
Now it looks like I could be buying so much that I’d almost prefer a new Octane release be put off until 2026.

Although, much as we've discussed before. Poor Broadside might need to be Titan Class to (finally) achieve a decent figure.

I liked Broadside's TR figure, though I wouldn't mind a new one at all, if at least to give a cleaner jet mode. I like the toy design a lot so they better do it justice lol

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Too bad all that translucent plastic has made Tripredacus so fragile.

The one (big) flaw. That's the part that would benefit from a modern redux. Whereas the top heavy mess that is Magnaboss would need a lot of work. Especially when it comes to making Silverbolt and Ironhide look decent in bot mode, too.

What's wrong with Silverbolt's bot mode? The wings weren't great, but that's easily fixed with some joints and they were fine for the time. There isn't much I would change with Ironhide either, just make his claws useful and his head hideable in Magnaboss. I like that he has such an unusual bot mode overall.

Emerje

Sowndwave76 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:If Hasbro wanted to release a Commander Class Octane that would interest me.

A leader would be enough, but for PERFECTION, commander would be the right class.

Yeah, not saying it’s right or wrong, but Hastak is trying to accurately scale bot modes together, rather than put a character into a class based on which budget would do the most justice for an individual’s ideal engineering needs.
Since we’re getting a leader class Springer, I’m going to bet any future triple-changers will follow suit.

I was recently telling a friend that I thought next year would be really quiet on the collecting front…
Now it looks like I could be buying so much that I’d almost prefer a new Octane release be put off until 2026.

IDK, Motormaster being a Commander is why I suggest it for Octane. While Blizwing works fine as a triple changer in Leader class he doesn't have a trailer section to cost out. Whether Springer is improved as a Leader or not is up to the individual buyer, I'm perfectly content with his Voyager figure and have zero plans to trade up. I'd rather that budget go towards a bot that truly needs it due to age versus a bot just released a year or two ago. Same issues with UM getting Commander after just getting several Leader versions in very resent times...

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:If Hasbro wanted to release a Commander Class Octane that would interest me.

A leader would be enough, but for PERFECTION, commander would be the right class.

I don't know if a leader would be enough. It didn't work for Blitzwing.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:If Hasbro wanted to release a Commander Class Octane that would interest me.

A leader would be enough, but for PERFECTION, commander would be the right class.

I don't know if a leader would be enough. It didn't work for Blitzwing.

I think what botched Blitzwing was the way they handled the attempt at 'toon accuracy methinks. As well as using some of that budget for those gauntlets when it probably wouldn't have hurt to add an extra hinge or two - not that I'm an expert on how the budget even works or the engineering and all that anyway.
I guess I can also blame the 'toon for having Blitz's tank mode facing the wrong way in the first place, heh!

SpaceEagle wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:If Hasbro wanted to release a Commander Class Octane that would interest me.

A leader would be enough, but for PERFECTION, commander would be the right class.

I don't know if a leader would be enough. It didn't work for Blitzwing.

I think what botched Blitzwing was the way they handled the attempt at 'toon accuracy methinks. As well as using some of that budget for those gauntlets when it probably wouldn't have hurt to add an extra hinge or two - not that I'm an expert on how the budget even works or the engineering and all that anyway.
I guess I can also blame the 'toon for having Blitz's tank mode facing the wrong way in the first place, heh!

Yup.
The "toon accuracy" was badly done and like Astrotrain's tender, the ressources for those extra giant fists could have been used elsewhere.

Have to chime in to agree about the Botcon Predacus and Magnaboss being great combiners. The unified color scheme makes the combined for one of the best looking.

Sabrblade wrote:Wait, Clench isn't a Predator. He's an Obliterator.

Fans Hobby exclusive for TFcon was revealed around the time I posted, got crossed up.

Either way, Euro G1 and G1.5 guys are on my menu for sure!

I'm probably almost alone in this opinion, but I've said for years now that I'm into TF because of the characters' bot modes...
If I were that into cars and motorcycles and jets and tanks, etc., I'd have a collection of models.

Considering Hastak hasn't truly prioritized screen-accuracy until relatively recently, there have been plenty of figures in the past that have sacrificed robot appearance and compromised that more to benefit alt modes. And as we all know, there's only so much you can do in terms of engineering, especially for a triple changer. Even the most "toon accurate" figures still miss the mark. Where people start freaking out is when these more toon accurate versions are compared to previous ones, where, as I said before, screen accuracy clearly wasn't the priority.
An example is SS86 Ironhide. This version is going to be tough to beat in the realm of appearances... And yet, compared to the animation model, his shoulders are too wide. His lower legs are too bulky. I'd also say there are probably proportion issues with his chest/torso.
I'll pause to say I'm not complaining, I'm being objective. In fact I have very little to complain about in general with newer G1 character figures. I have loved the SS86 subline.
For me, some (almost a lot) of the more recent figures are most likely the "definitive" versions. Some are so good, that I don't know how a new mold could be justified when the amount of improvement would be minimal.
And for me personally, this is where I'd probably start bowing-out of buying new, "improved" versions. Especially with increasing prices.

Another unpopular opinion (and speculation)--
Hastak is pushing out more G1 characters knowing that people like me are going to retire sooner than later. While I won't argue that G1 will always be relatively popular, being "popular", and maintaining solid, profiting sales are two totally separate things. I turn 50 in 2026. Between that and the 40th anniversary of the animated movie, for me, the end of that year will be the perfect time to bow-out. And there's no way I can be alone in this.
And for those of you who can't fathom leaving this hobby, this very thought had never crossed my mind just 3 years ago. Of course there were still some figures on my "really want" list, but to stop altogether-- never a thought. And sure, if you're currently in your 30's, maybe you will continue all the way into your 70's... That seems like a far, far stretch imo, but sure, it's possible.
Just seems that in time that something-- financial goals, changes in interests, relationships, and/or other life goals-- could cause enough of a shift to leave these little plastic toys behind.

TK415 wrote:Awesome!

Thank you WJ, Seibertron, and the rest of the staff!

I got the email earlier but Pulse was already sold out. Thank you for the info and the Amazon links!

Appreciated and helpful!

Very glad I could help!

An image has leaked through Discord, which gives us our first look at Transformers Legacy Cybertron Starscream. « Cybertron » here reffers to the third part of the Unicron trilogy. Like the Armada and Energon themed figures we saw in Legacy, this is a very faithful design as opposed to a « G1 » reimagining like we saw with the Prime and RID2015 characters.

This image is s cropped version of an upcoming set of images that will be used to reveal this character. We have now seen all of Legacy wave 2 before it is officially revealed.

Wow that looks great
I already have 86 starscream
And im using Armada screamer as my Redwing
Not sure if I have room for this in my collection but if there's a good looking repaint I'll grab it reap quick cause that mold is awesome

william-james88 wrote:An image has leaked through Discord, which gives us our first look at Transformers Legacy Cybertron Starscream. « Cybertron » here reffers to the third part of the Unicron trilogy. Like the Armada and Energon themed figures we saw in Legacy, this is a very faithful design as opposed to a « G1 » reimagining like we saw with the Prime and RID2015 characters.

This looks great! Also, I'm not sure if it's just me, but it does look like he has a more G1-inspired head than his original.

Do we know what size this guy is?

What I'm most curious about is whether or not he'll have some representation of those "shutters" that came down to fill in/cover up the back of his legs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rk1FZBo6MM