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Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:22 pmby Psychout
Hey guys.
The Vicious Flying Monster class was added as a reward after the last round of the Campaign storyline, but also as an experiment by Burn and I as we continue to investigate ways that we can improve the game for you within the toolset that Burn has access to.
The VFM isn't the only one we intend to add (although we won't be discussing those here due to spoilers which is a spoiler in itself I guess...), but we would really like to know what you think of this alt class to help us in the future.
Do you use it, and if so do you like it and why?
Did you try it but ditch it straight after?
Did you ignore it completely?
How does it compare with other Ram/Avoid equivalent classes?
Got strong opinions on it either way?
We are after all opinions - even negative ones as if we don't know your complaints about it, we can't work to fix them.
Thanks,
Psych
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
Posted:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:38 pmby High Command
I'm using it but not loving it.
Brazenose has IMHO a decent build but isn't performing as well as my other guys of similar level.
First, I hate avoid. Used to love it when I was down at L0-1 but it's use goes waaay down with each level increase.
Trouble is, all tne alts I like the look of for the character have avoid or are single tactic alts (which I also don't favour).
Second, I don't think this alt uses it's tactics as often as it should. I have avoid and bite set to 10 each but he seems to use his weapon more than the tactics. When a tactic is uses I'd estimate it's avoid 3/5 of the time.
Single tactic biters seem to be using bite all the time but I didn't think the strafe/bite pandabunny alt or this one bite very often.
In all honesty, I'm thinking of killing the character off an making another ram/strafe build instead with a new character. :/
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:59 pmby Burn
High Command wrote:Single tactic biters seem to be using bite all the time but I didn't think the strafe/bite pandabunny alt or this one bite very often.
Bun-Bun is running tests for us with the Rusty Shovel alt to work out how to balance tactic triggers.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:15 pmby sumowrestler
I complforgot about the new alt mode. I seldom alternate my alt modes unless one strikes my fancy or if I am needed for the TAG team.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:57 pmby Absolute Zero
I ignored it. Unless helping with the TAG team as a crash test dummy, I roll repair bots. I'm interested in Bite, but not enough to run it without repair.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:52 pmby High Command
Burn wrote:High Command wrote:Single tactic biters seem to be using bite all the time but I didn't think the strafe/bite pandabunny alt or this one bite very often.
Bun-Bun is running tests for us with the Rusty Shovel alt to work out how to balance tactic triggers.
I know. Who do you think his whipping boy is to test it out on at the moment?
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
Posted:
Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:00 pmby Burn
High Command wrote:Burn wrote:High Command wrote:Single tactic biters seem to be using bite all the time but I didn't think the strafe/bite pandabunny alt or this one bite very often.
Bun-Bun is running tests for us with the Rusty Shovel alt to work out how to balance tactic triggers.
I know. Who do you think his whipping boy is to test it out on at the moment?
ZeroWolf.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 2:04 amby High Command
Burn wrote:High Command wrote:Burn wrote:High Command wrote:Single tactic biters seem to be using bite all the time but I didn't think the strafe/bite pandabunny alt or this one bite very often.
Bun-Bun is running tests for us with the Rusty Shovel alt to work out how to balance tactic triggers.
I know. Who do you think his whipping boy is to test it out on at the moment?
ZeroWolf.
Guess again.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 1:45 pmby Phasewing
Had it on Hellbent for a while... didn't do that great, had max bite and near max avoid. Did not bite a whole lot. Then again seems like my guys just couch potato themselves a lot, so probably unlucky.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
Posted:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 3:31 pmby High Command
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
Posted:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:01 pmby Burn
I've given Bite on it a slight change. See if that improves things.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
Posted:
Fri Jan 04, 2019 4:11 pmby High Command
Will keep a keen eye on it and report back.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:42 pmby S.o.L.
It's okay, not overpowered, but probably shouldn't be anyway.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:55 amby High Command
Burn wrote:I've given Bite on it a slight change. See if that improves things.
Marginal improvement but still not great.
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=1393395 weapon attacks vs 1 bite and no avoid, despite the 10 upgrades in each tactic.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:41 amby steve2275
High Command wrote:Burn wrote:I've given Bite on it a slight change. See if that improves things.
Marginal improvement but still not great.
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=1393395 weapon attacks vs 1 bite and no avoid, despite the 10 upgrades in each tactic.
the alt isnt brazen enough you could say
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:06 pmby High Command
steve2275 wrote:High Command wrote:Burn wrote:I've given Bite on it a slight change. See if that improves things.
Marginal improvement but still not great.
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=1393395 weapon attacks vs 1 bite and no avoid, despite the 10 upgrades in each tactic.
the alt isnt brazen enough you could say
Better.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:39 pmby Bad Wolf
Psychout wrote:Do you use it, and if so do you like it and why?
Did you try it but ditch it straight after?
Did you ignore it completely?
How does it compare with other Ram/Avoid equivalent classes?
Got strong opinions on it either way?
We are after all opinions - even negative ones as if we don't know your complaints about it, we can't work to fix them.
Didn't use it as I do not have a character that it would work with
No
Yes
Dunno
Rather have Ram/Repair or Bite/Repair
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:06 amby steve2275
oooo bite and repair
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:06 pmby High Command
https://www.seibertron.com/heavymetalwa ... _id=141328Bite seems to be working fine now.
TBH, probably will ditch the alt for another tactic combo to get rid of using avoid at some stage. Strafe/bite probably.
Re: Feedback request: Vicious Flying Monster. What do you think?
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Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:19 amby Psychout
To try and encourage its use a bit more, the Vicious Flying Monster Class has had it's pre-req for Avoid reduced from Skill 5 to 2.
Go and bite someone's face off!