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Re: Modpost: Anyone with a single-tactic alt on their team please read.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:35 pm
by Psychout
Burn wrote:
Absolute Zero wrote:I'd rather see more 1-11s than a raise in frequency of 8-11 personally, most of those come up with no opposition. Increasing the missions that range from x-10 to x-11 is nice.

Finding the balance for the frequency is an absolute bitch.

I've not touched the 8-11s, only upgraded the 6-10s so you're OK there.

Re: Modpost: Anyone with a single-tactic alt on their team please read.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:04 pm
by Psychout
So, back to topic...

How are we finding these dual-tactic Weapons? Yay or Nay?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:09 pm
by Absolute Zero
Yay! I think I will reformat Magna Convoy into one.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:41 pm
by -Soundwave-
So far so good.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:40 pm
by steve2275
these upgraded missions.....thank you
but is still a need for level 10 autobots
unless the 7-10 get deleted

Re: Modpost: Anyone with a single-tactic alt on their team please read.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:42 pm
by Naked Magnus
Glad to hear the single tactic alt modes are getting a second tactic.

It might come as a shock to you all, but I kinda like Ultra Magnus. I would have stuck with his Alt mode but could not progress in the game (and stay competitive) with just the ability to Ram.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:45 pm
by Burn
Naked Magnus wrote:I would have stuck with his Alt mode but could not progress in the game (and stay competitive) with just the ability to Ram.

Which is pretty much the main reason Psychout's doing this. More so if we some how manage to get level 12 (and possibly even 13) introduced (coding required), that would leave a big discrepancy.

And hey, if people still want single tactic then they don't have to put anything into the second tactic.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:12 am
by Symbiote Spiderman14
I like the idea of adding another tactic to some of the single tactic alts. It opens up variety so everyone is not using the same alt all the time.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:15 am
by steve2275
I see the 6-9 still show up

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:17 am
by Psychout
It was only the 2 6-10 missions that I altered Steve, I left the rest of them so the level 6s didn't get destroyed in every mission, and to keep the Inferno theme intact.

Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:I like the idea of adding another tactic to some of the single tactic alts. It opens up variety so everyone is not using the same alt all the time.
Naked Magnus wrote:Glad to hear the single tactic alt modes are getting a second tactic.

It might come as a shock to you all, but I kinda like Ultra Magnus. I would have stuck with his Alt mode but could not progress in the game (and stay competitive) with just the ability to Ram.


Thanks guys, glad you like the change.

Now we know there are no lasting issues with the Weapon, keep an eye on the Gadget, Hovercraft and (a few of you have asked for this) Heavy Vehicle over the next few days ;)

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 9:30 am
by steve2275
ok ya got me on the gadget
why not just put heavy vehicle into heavy rescue vehicle group or heavy assault :-?
hovercraft seems a good repair candidate
and same for the walker vehicle :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:09 pm
by Absolute Zero
steve2275 wrote:ok ya got me on the gadget
why not just put heavy vehicle into heavy rescue vehicle group or heavy assault :-?
hovercraft seems a good repair candidate
and same for the walker vehicle :lol:

Probably the same reason weapons weren't folded into one of the strafe/repair alt mode lists. I blame the Code.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:21 pm
by Xenos Prime
A lot of my favorite alts have single tactics and as I'm reaching higher levels I'm realizing I'll never get most of my cons to level 11. Slow roll out of extra tactics for solo tactic modes is welcome. If I have to reset to get the new tactics I'd like to know because saving for armor is tough for me still.

Re: Modpost: Anyone with a single-tactic alt on their team please read.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:26 pm
by Psychout
Xenos Prime wrote:A lot of my favorite alts have single tactics and as I'm reaching higher levels I'm realizing I'll never get most of my cons to level 11. Slow roll out of extra tactics for solo tactic modes is welcome. If I have to reset to get the new tactics I'd like to know because saving for armor is tough for me still.

You shouldn't need to reset to activate the second tactic. If you look at the help section it will tell you what stats you need to unlock it, and then you just put the points in and away you go.

There will be plenty more single to double updates over the next few months so keep checking if you don't see the one you want just yet.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:38 pm
by Burn
Xenos Prime wrote:saving for armor is tough for me still.

If you need energon, just hit up your relevant faction forum. Someone will be more than happy to send some your way.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 8:43 am
by Bad Wolf
Psychout wrote:So, back to topic...
How are we finding these dual-tactic Weapons? Yay or Nay?


loving the dual ram/repair on UMN :x now my zombie'cons can be a bit more true to their bios 8-) *now only if we could get that bite/repair :-D :-? *

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:41 pm
by Psychout
Bad Wolf wrote:*now only if we could get that bite/repair :-D :-? *
You'd better do a good job of the Campaign them, hadn't you? ;)

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:11 pm
by Bad Wolf
Psychout wrote:
Bad Wolf wrote:*now only if we could get that bite/repair :-D :-? *
You'd better do a good job of the Campaign them, hadn't you? ;)


I have no idea what that meant lol

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 3:39 pm
by Burn
Bad Wolf wrote:
Psychout wrote:
Bad Wolf wrote:*now only if we could get that bite/repair :-D :-? *
You'd better do a good job of the Campaign them, hadn't you? ;)


I have no idea what that meant lol


She who sits there refreshing the alt screen to see when we sneak things in hasn't seen the details of the next Campaign stage? Image

Re: Modpost: Anyone with a single-tactic alt on their team please read.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:07 pm
by Bad Wolf
Burn wrote:
Bad Wolf wrote:
Psychout wrote:
Bad Wolf wrote:*now only if we could get that bite/repair :-D :-? *
You'd better do a good job of the Campaign them, hadn't you? ;)


I have no idea what that meant lol


She who sits there refreshing the alt screen to see when we sneak things in hasn't seen the details of the next Campaign stage? Image


*wwhhhaaa* i do no such thing. i just happen to enjoy resetting my characters when new alts become available. that just so happens to coincide when you choose to place the new ones in >:oP

.. and no. haven't paid much attention to really much of anything the last few weeks ..

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:00 am
by Psychout
New update time!!

Following up on the changes to the Weapon (+Repair), Gadget (+Strafe), Hovercraft (+Strafe) and Heavy Vehicle (+Repair) alt classes to dual-tactic, the next round of changes will be made today...

Light Vehicle is gaining Strafe
Tough Insect & Helpful Insect are gaining Avoid
Walker Vehicle is gaining Ram

And, as a special reward from CfC, ready for round 4,
Dragon is gaining BITE.

These will be implmented over the next few hours and just like last time, if you already have an alt of the updated class you only need to to put points in the unlocking stat to use it, there should be no resetting required.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:54 am
by ThunderThruster
*Necro-Bump*

Hey Psychout, any thoughts on finishing this project of giving secondary tactics to the remaining single tactic alts?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:04 am
by Psychout
ThunderThruster wrote:*Necro-Bump*

Hey Psychout, any thoughts on finishing this project of giving secondary tactics to the remaining single tactic alts?

I've had a lot of thoughts on this.

Whats the point...
Why bother...
I've not heard from Burn for so long I think might be dead... (He's not. Probably.)

But yes, I'll get back on this. It may not make a huge difference to the game, but even though a lot of the players have slowed down due to the coronapocalypse, messy real lives and other media being far easier and more immediately rewarding to play, we all still love this game and for some of us its coming up to 20 years we have been playing it.

I still have all of the spreadsheets I made for it so I'll take a look and see what I can still update for you.

Thanks for the reminder!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 9:56 am
by ThunderThruster
Much obliged for your thoughts.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:43 pm
by Burn
Psychout wrote:I've not heard from Burn for so long I think might be dead... (He's not. Probably.)

You see me on Facebook every few days!
But I probably could die and Ryan wouldn't even notice.