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ZeroWolf wrote:Have any Disney+ series got a home media release?

"Disney has no plans to release the Marvel shows on DVD"

I'd say that answers that.

Meanwhile,

She-Hulk Episode 8

So this seems to be a trope now. This, the second to last episode, being the best one so far. This also being the official MCU debut of Daredevil, by the way. The two have good chemistry. For whatever reason, this episode gives off a completely different vibe to the others too. Like better writers were bought onboard for the penultimate episode. The 4th wall breaks, the banter. Everything just seems to been taken up a notch. Which is really jarring that it took eight episodes to reach this point. 8/10

Werewolf By Night

Also on Disney+, literally one of the best things they've done in years. Can't give too much away but the Universal Monsters aesthetic teased in the trailer, wasn't a copout. As a one-off, 54 minute special (in time for Halloween). Highly recommended. 9.5/10

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Have any Disney+ series got a home media release?

"Disney has no plans to release the Marvel shows on DVD"

I'd say that answers that.

Meanwhile,

She-Hulk Episode 8

So this seems to be a trope now. This, the second to last episode, being the best one so far. This also being the official MCU debut of Daredevil, by the way. The two have good chemistry. For whatever reason, this episode gives off a completely different vibe to the others too. Like better writers were bought onboard for the penultimate episode. The 4th wall breaks, the banter. Everything just seems to been taken up a notch. Which is really jarring that it took eight episodes to reach this point. 8/10

Werewolf By Night

Also on Disney+, literally one of the best things they've done in years. Can't give too much away but the Universal Monsters aesthetic teased in the trailer, wasn't a copout. As a one-off, 54 minute special (in time for Halloween). Highly recommended. 9.5/10

So you're not counting No Way Home for daredevil?

ZeroWolf wrote:So you're not counting No Way Home for daredevil?

That was Matt Murdock's debut. This features Daredevil (and Matt Murdock).

She-Hulk Episode 9

Tick the second trope box. The penultimate episode being better than the finale. Granted, this is the most fitting finale to the series. As they go "full comic book" with the 4th wall breaking. Also subverting a major criticism that has been levelled at MCU show finales since Wandavision. While at the same time, another supervillain team has been thrown under the bus onscreen. I really don't get why the MCU struggles so much with villains?

(For those that will just say 'Thanos' and shrug. The MCU has been a thing for 12 years now. Sound off how many villains have been as well written as Thanos, in comparison to heroes. Across the entire span of those twelve years.)

I would hope, if there is a future for this show. That either the comedy or legal side are better/more accurately written. A show geared to be light hearted, shouldn't be a slog to get through. 7/10

I struggle to understand the criticism of She-Hulk.

From what I've seen, people are disappointed in it as a super-hero show. But it was never meant to be a super-hero show, it was meant to be a laywer comedy with super powered people in it.

It was also clearly intended to be a giant middle finger to all the super-women hating incels that have screamed at the top of their lungs on the internet since before Captain Marvel.

And frankly, it achieved both of those goals perfectly.

As for people going on about nerfed Hulk ... how many times has Hulk's personality changed in the comics? He started out as a mindless brute and along the way has been Hulk with Banner smarts, Joe Fix-It, pissed off beat-the-snot-out-of-the-Illuminati Hulk, a spaceship fueled by rage and piloted by Banner (current comics ... strange book at the moment) and various other mood swings. This is just Banner Smarts Hulk, it's not a new thing. So I just don't get the criticism.

Or maybe I'm just easily entertained and don't over analyse stuff, I dunno ... just a life long Marvel fan who rates the Hulk as one of his all time relatable characters.

Hulk takes away from She Hulk. Hulk is a dumb ass. I don't have disney plus and have seen parts of she hulk on watchmojo. I didn't like it.

Burn wrote:I struggle to understand the criticism of She-Hulk.

From what I've seen, people are disappointed in it as a super-hero show. But it was never meant to be a super-hero show, it was meant to be a laywer comedy with super powered people in it.

It was also clearly intended to be a giant middle finger to all the super-women hating incels that have screamed at the top of their lungs on the internet since before Captain Marvel.

And frankly, it achieved both of those goals perfectly.

As for people going on about nerfed Hulk ... how many times has Hulk's personality changed in the comics? He started out as a mindless brute and along the way has been Hulk with Banner smarts, Joe Fix-It, pissed off beat-the-snot-out-of-the-Illuminati Hulk, a spaceship fueled by rage and piloted by Banner (current comics ... strange book at the moment) and various other mood swings. This is just Banner Smarts Hulk, it's not a new thing. So I just don't get the criticism.

Or maybe I'm just easily entertained and don't over analyse stuff, I dunno ... just a life long Marvel fan who rates the Hulk as one of his all time relatable characters.

Pretty much my thoughts

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:Hulk takes away from She Hulk.

That's never been true. Because they are not the same thing. The show literally mocks people that spout this.

Burn wrote:a spaceship fueled by rage and piloted by Banner (current comics ... strange book at the moment)

My secondary issue with She-Hulk. We live in a world where My Cousin Vinny, Ally McBeal and Boston Legal exist. Shulk needs the legal side to be a bit more accurate (akin to the Joe Pesci movie) but with the caveat being the absurdity of being set in a comic book universe. While at the same time, a comedy should be funny. Not just raise a grin, but spit your drink out funny. As with the two legal comedies I similarly mentioned. This isn't the first legal comedy with a strange premise there has ever been. Yet this show seems to have been made in that bubble.

My main issue, one I have with the larger MCU. When you name drop a supervillain team. I don't want shade thrown at worthless, real life losers online. I want this:


Intelligencia

These:


The Wrecking Crew

At this point, I foresee the MCU debuts of Dr. Doom, Galactus and Magneto likely to become comic relief.

I can't judge one way or the other, as I haven't seen the show (not on Disney plus at present). But considering it looked on social media like people were whining about the show before it even aired, it's hard to take a lot of the critisism seriously. I think a bunch of it is just the previously mentioned super-women hating incels.

Blastback wrote:I can't judge one way or the other, as I haven't seen the show (not on Disney plus at present). But considering it looked on social media like people were whining about the show before it even aired, it's hard to take a lot of the critisism seriously. I think a bunch of it is just the previously mentioned super-women hating incels.

Fanboys that think they are all out comic gods on social media are toxic, social media is toxic in itself especially the way douche-bags manipulate it.

Burn wrote:I struggle to understand the criticism of She-Hulk.

From what I've seen, people are disappointed in it as a super-hero show. But it was never meant to be a super-hero show, it was meant to be a laywer comedy with super powered people in it.

It was also clearly intended to be a giant middle finger to all the super-women hating incels that have screamed at the top of their lungs on the internet since before Captain Marvel.

And frankly, it achieved both of those goals perfectly.

As for people going on about nerfed Hulk ... how many times has Hulk's personality changed in the comics? He started out as a mindless brute and along the way has been Hulk with Banner smarts, Joe Fix-It, pissed off beat-the-snot-out-of-the-Illuminati Hulk, a spaceship fueled by rage and piloted by Banner (current comics ... strange book at the moment) and various other mood swings. This is just Banner Smarts Hulk, it's not a new thing. So I just don't get the criticism.

Or maybe I'm just easily entertained and don't over analyse stuff, I dunno ... just a life long Marvel fan who rates the Hulk as one of his all time relatable characters.

This right here ^^^^!

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:Hulk takes away from She Hulk. Hulk is a dumb ass. I don't have disney plus and have seen parts of she hulk on watchmojo. I didn't like it.

If you haven't seen the whole thing then you are missing context and your point is invalid.

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:Hulk takes away from She Hulk. Hulk is a dumb ass.

That doesn't sound like duragrip at all ... could this be ... Nemesis duragrip?

Burn wrote:

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:Hulk takes away from She Hulk. Hulk is a dumb ass.

That doesn't sound like duragrip at all ... could this be ... Nemesis duragrip?

Oh I like that.

negagrip?

So far, this is how I'd rate the shows.

WandaVision - 7

The Falcon and the Winter Soldier - 6

Loki - 8

What If...? - 5

Hawkeye - 5

Moon Knight - 8

Ms. Marvel - 6

She-Hulk: Attorney at Law - 7

Blastback wrote:negagrip?

Awesome!!!!

Jessica Jones - 10/10. I have the 1st season on dvd.
The Punisher - 10/10. I own both seasons on dvd.
The Colleen Wing Show aka Iron Fist - 9/10
Daredevil Season 2 - 10/10
Defenders - 1/10
Werewolf by night - 10/10
Kate Bishiop - 10/10
Ms. Marvel - 2/10
Luke Cage - 0/10

Loki remains my favorite D+ show so far, and WandaVision probably my least favorite. I do still need to watch Falcon and Winter Soldier, Ms Marvel, and She Hulk, but I do intend to watch She-Hulk very soon, I have heard a lot of good things. I will get to the other 2 eventually.

In terms of my favorites, here is how I rate the shows I have watched

1) Loki
2) Moon Knight
3) What If?
4) Hawkeye
5) Wandavision

I own Daredevil Season 2 on dvd.

JohnnyFountainS1983 wrote:I own Daredevil Season 2 on dvd.

Paul Rudd = Best... "Spider-Man"... Ever!

Looks fun. The Ant-Man films have been consistantly enjoyable so far. Hopefully they'll nail Kang, Marvel needs more good villians.

I was talking to a fellow X-Men fan a while ago and we were discussing how best to introduce the X-Men in the MCU.



While the ideal would be to introduce the Original Five. Something that hasn't happened within any prior onscreen iteration of the team. I think, an alternate approach could also work. Incorporating the already established MCU - The Age of Apocalypse.

Abridged version: Professor X's son, in a bid to help make his father's dream a reality. Goes into the past to kill Magneto, before his rise to supervillain. Accidentally, he kills his own father in the past. This in turn, emboldens Apocalypse to attack and conquer the world too early for serious resistance to be mounted. Basically, Apocalypse attacks 60's Marvel... They were not ready.



Apocalypse culls billions. Pre-Spider-Man Peter Parker, Black Panther and Namor to name a few. This book, X-Universe, covers this perspective. Through survivors such as Tony Stark, Donald Blake, Gwen Stacy, Sue Storm among others.

A possibly Cable-centric, reverse narrative. A particularly bleak one. Might be a very unique way to handle their introduction.

So how do you cheer up a guy who lost his mom, found out his dad was a genocidal entity, lost his father figure to self-sacrifice, lost his girl with no chance of saving her, and now seeks the version that came with 2014 Thanos but can't find her?

You kidnap Kevin Bacon!




The Premise is simple. Cheer up a guy at Christmas time. I like it, though, lets be honest. Kevin Bacons probably only gonna be in for 2-5 minutes and probably be killed off in some anti-climactic, yet funny, way.

Also, we get our first look at Alpha Groot.

HA!

Also COSMO!!!

The question is, will Kevin still have his Sebastian Shaw powers from X-Men: First Class thanks to the magic of the multiverse?!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270798/ch ... /nm0000102

I hope so!