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I have simultaneous ambiguous feelings about Titan Masters.

Mild confusion sets in :

The negative feeling is the sense of mild confusion I still have about the logistics of how they are supposed to work conceptually speaking. especially when it seems to vary from toy to toy.


Deck the halls with boughs of Robots :

But then I also have positive feelings towards the mini-figures (especially in their slightly better painted Takara form).

I like how they interact with the mini-vehicles and I like that they sit in the vehicles and decorate the base modes. To me it's a bit like the appeal of one of my all time favourite toylines Microman 99.


Powerlinking vs Titanmastering ? :

In terms of play pattern perhaps they are easier to manage than Armada Minicons too - no concern with Transformation lock at least. Though it can be a bit of a worry when the heads are either to loose or to tight.


Sit your Donkey down :

Also I think the seat-guns were probably not worth doing they tend to detract more than they add. though I would have liked them more if they'd been engineered to allow the figure to lay down or fold up into them to act as a faux-targetmaster.



3rd Party thoughts :

Long term I can see some potential for a 3rd party company to make full bodies for anyone Hasbro has skipped over too I like the idea of Apeface wielding his own mini-me as a gun for example.

Onwards to the Future :

But I will have a sense that this is a line half-done or that some of the characters they used maybe might have been better held off until the next line if the gimic next time is better suited to them.

I'm a little behind, but I just wanted to leave some thoughts on Kup.

I wish the colors were handled better. No, I don't mean more cartoon accurate, but more toy accurate. He's too blue, it would be better if he was more teal like the original toy with lighter gray parts. As is he's neither cartoon or toy accurate and that really bugs me in line that's so far been so staunchly toy accurate. This is the same kind of botching they did with Blurr where the figure would have been better if they had simply chosen the right shade of plastic. Being somewhat Marvel comic accurate does make me tiny bit happy.

Bot mode is more square than I would have liked. I can understand having something specific in mind from the comics, but it's still strange having his arm being consistently the same from shoulder to fist. I think giving him better proportioned arms that could be hidden under a shield in truck mode and giving him one gun would have made a better looking bot mode. Also not crazy about the lights or whatever they're supposed to be visible under the glass. I'm guessing they're the truck mode's headlights, but they're out of place on the bot mode.

As for the truck mode, it's so blue! All of the gray parts are hidden and what's left is just a bland blue truck. And if that wasn't enough they even made the windshield blue which would have looked so much better in smokey gray like Wheelie (which I didn't like on Wheelie because it obscured his bot mode body details). He's now apparently a flatbed truck since he's lost the depth of his truck bed that the original and even the Generations figure had.

This figure feels like a step backwards for the design team, the first real dud of an otherwise stellar line (quality control issues aside. I'll probably still buy it since I've done a fairly good job of completing Deluxe figures so far, but he'll probably be tucked in the back on the shelf.

On a happier note I did find Titan Masters Wave 3 his morning.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
I've never really understood the argument/sentiment that X character wasn't a headmaster before, so now Hasbro has ruined them.

I never got it either. Thats like saying G1 optimus was never a small cab that combined to become bigger so Power master prime ruins 84 Optimus.

Interestingly, THAT was a pretty popular opinion. As a kid, I had never seen ANY media with powermaster in it, and had zero interest in PM prime. I had the original, and that was 'the real Optimus'. I had a couple friend who got into it late, and could 'only' get Powermaster at the time... and they were jealous of me and their brothers... because we had the 'Real Prime'. Since then I've seen that they included him in the marvel comics and they've had Japanese cartoons with them... So I'm more open to it now. (Probably didn't help that the original was such a brick... and the new one has some sweet articulation) But yeah, a lot the 'pointless repaints' really bug a lot of people and I HATED when I couldn't have the 'iconic' version and was stuck with Battle Armor He-man or Night Gliding Batman or Scuba gear Spider-man... Even as a kid I could see the companies were just trying to milk us for more cash... Having PowerMaster in the comics... legitimizes the figures a lot in my eyes.

william-james88 wrote:[
Or better yet, Optimus was never a senseless murderer so him killing leonard nemoy Sentinel Prime ruins Optimus. Or even better, Megatron was never a big skeleton looking organic robot so the movies ruin him. or even better, Galvatron was made by Unicron not humans so now the movies ruin him. To me Optimus is still cool, Megatron is still great and Galvatron is still **** awesome, the movie interpretations dont ruin anything. Just like these new toy interpretations dont ruin anything. And anyways, at this rate, the MP line will have these characters as non headmasters for all the fans to buy so I think we all win eventually.

We've gotten kinda lucky with Transformers... there was a time that the movie incarnation was dwarfing over everything that came before or after... and at THAT point, YEAH... if that incarnation sucks, it will ruin the franchise characters. If all I could get right now were movie line figures for movies I didn't like... I wouldn't buy them.

Fortunately we've still gotten some solid G1 focus/styles/characters and combiners and city bots and such that the movie didn't eclipse everything... Though I remember it was pretty closer there for a while...

For me, the story/nostalgia is a massive part of my collecting habits. I don't have NEAR enough money to just buy everything... I have to REALLY love it. Turning Hot Rod or Kup into mech suits for minibots... is pretty blah to me. Ironically, the whole IDW Magnus being a mech suit for Minimus, I REALLY loved that idea. I have NO idea what the difference there is... but there must be one. One I love, one I hate...

Another good example is Defensor. For me, the MORE combiners they made... the less special they were. Devastator was my favorite because of the way he made autobots wet themselves when he showed up... Superion was cool, because he was the 'first' Autobot combiner... And I planned on stopping there.

Finding out the Protectobots were designed as human protectors and who's prime purpose wasn't to fight 'the war' but to save as many civilians as they could.... That really struck a nerve. I've been searching for his parts ever since. I LOVE that concept and I think he's my new favorite combiner...

So yeah, story matters to some. Sometimes it's just the mechanics. I haven't actually opened PMOP yet, but from what I've heard about him and Galvatron... they have these mask things that go over the headmasters... and they can't turn their heads or it impedes things somehow... and that's a valid complaint. If they could have made those figures PERFECT without the titan amster gimmick... I think it would have been better.

The Headmasters didn't start out as Headmasters either. I personally like to imagine the Generations toys as a post-G1 continuation of G1.

This may explain why I like New Adventures He-Man and G2 so much. Or why I like Rodimus more than Optimus. Or why Rebirth is clicking for me at DC Comics. I like these characters like I like old friends and I like seeing them change and grow old, even when it means a bad haircut or a new paint job. The last thing I'd want is for them to stay exactly as I first encountered them or rebooted continuously into a cool, modern equivalent of that. I like them to evolve, grow, have bad phases. I guess I like the Japanese continuities more because they're more sequel than reboot.

I keep bringing up this Geewhiner sentiment and its absurdity keeps reigning true:

If it's not EXACTLY like how it was in MY childhood, no matter how poorly done it might or might have not been, then it SUCKS!!!!!


And yet, those making "G1 with knees" complaints argue at the opposite end of the spectrum:

Everything MUST be UPDATED! I already HAVE the G1 toys! I don't WANT the SAME THING AGAIN but with KNEES added!!!!


Oy, this fandom.

Sabrblade wrote:I keep bringing up this Geewhiner sentiment and its absurdity keeps reigning true:

If it's not EXACTLY like how it was in MY childhood, no matter how poorly done it might or might have not been, then it SUCKS!!!!!


And yet, those making "G1 with knees" complaints argue at the opposite end of the spectrum:

Everything MUST be UPDATED! I already HAVE the G1 toys! I don't WANT the SAME THING AGAIN but with KNEES added!!!!


Oy, this fandom.

But that's because the fandom is so varied. There can't be a unified voice or want of somerhing because we don't all think the same way. I am just glad we still have transformers toys today. So many toylines have died or diminished over the years.

As a fan who leans more Geewhiner-than-Beastmaster, all I care about is - is this figure a good take on the character?

I do compare them to the original, if I had them, though.....and personally, when I think of true G1, to me it means prior to the '86 movie!

But I digress....

bodrock wrote:As a fan who leans more Geewhiner-than-Beastmaster, all I care about is - is this figure a good take on the character?

I do compare them to the original, if I had them, though.....and personally, when I think of true G1, to me it means prior to the '86 movie!

But I digress....

LOL! Yeah, I agree with that! For me, the movie kind of killed off transformers for me. Partly due to the fact that they outright murdered so many of my favorite characters... and partly because my stations didn't seem to carry season 3 when it came back. So I only saw Rodimus take over for Optimus... I never got to see him do any of the actual 'leading'.

The toys around that time? They started changing the core concept too much for me. once they started going from 'robots in disguise' to non-earth vehicles and Cyber-planes and stuff... i stopped getting them.

I first started with the toys... then The Marvel comics... then the cartoon. SO G1 means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. For me, those first 5-10 Marvel Comics were/are the core origins of the Transformers.

My collecting habits now? I love the original character designs. I HATED the original execution. Getting modern transformation tied in with the iconic character design... is my goal. The 'G1 with Knees' would be exactly what I wanted. I can't understand why people would have a problem with that?? Those original toys were... NOT great. The best of them were limited, the worst were bricks. That's what sold me on the new powermaster. Actual poseability.


But yeah, the 'fandom' is spread so wide, the hundreds of different goals people can have.

phantom1592 wrote:The 'G1 with Knees' would be exactly what I wanted. I can't understand why people would have a problem with that??

My best guess is that the people making the "G1 with knees" complaints got so used to the updated design aesthetics that began with the 2006 Classics line that they've come to expect the CHUG toys to looks like the G1 characters in new, modern-looking, but still familiar-enough and appropriate bodies, instead of them looking like the same 198s G1 bodies but with modern articulation, which is more of an expectation of the Masterpiece line that is beholden to the 1980s G1 look, while CHUG lines are where aspects of newness and creativity can be more freely applied to new toys of G1 characters.

And, well, there's also a large part of the fandom that has come to realize/accept that a lot of the 1980s G1 designs really don't look all that great to them anymore. When you're a kid, you're more readily accepting of things, but as an adult, you have the maturity, wisdom, and intelligence to look back on things from a more objective perspective and can recognize whether something from back then is or isn't as good and you used to think it was back then. That's why a lot of folks end up complaining about some of the Masterpieces being too similar to the cartoon models. If they don't like the look of the cartoon models, they won't like the looks of the toys that imitate them so faithfully.

RodimusRex wrote:The Headmasters didn't start out as Headmasters either. I personally like to imagine the Generations toys as a post-G1 continuation of G1.

This may explain why I like New Adventures He-Man and G2 so much. Or why I like Rodimus more than Optimus. Or why Rebirth is clicking for me at DC Comics. I like these characters like I like old friends and I like seeing them change and grow old, even when it means a bad haircut or a new paint job. The last thing I'd want is for them to stay exactly as I first encountered them or rebooted continuously into a cool, modern equivalent of that. I like them to evolve, grow, have bad phases. I guess I like the Japanese continuities more because they're more sequel than reboot.

And yet the direct homages/incarnations of the original G1 line (Takara's MP line and to some extent Hb) have been green lit and released since 2004 and continuously sellout (with some exception of course)

Not to mention the modern homages/improved(?) versions of many direct G1 characters we have come to know.

Makes you wonder why? Why?! Why does Takara and Hb always do the LAZARUS schtck on Transformers

william-james88 wrote:I am just glad we still have transformers toys today. So many toylines have died or diminished over the years.

So I've actually been thinking about this recently. Do the Generations line sell very well?

I assume it must since Hasbro is still pumping out figures for it, and they're still occupying valuable shelf space at major retailers. But that's about the only reason I can think of it selling well.

RID and the movie toys I understand, it's based on current material that kids are excited to watch and want a related toy. From what I can gather, Generations is influenced by G1 and the current comics. I'm guessing a large percentage of folks buying this stuff are roughly in their 30s and loved the G1 show growing up (like myself), and another large group are those that follow the comics. For simplicity, I'm going to assume both groups are mutually exclusive, but they're probably not. In any case, I can't fathom both groups being large enough to drive sales numbers to justify the continuation of the line. Kids must also be buying this stuff, but how would they even know about this? A 10 year old that learned about Transformers from the Michael Bay movies and getting interested in Generations toys as a result seems a stretch to me.

The other thing is that in the past year and change I've been collecting, I've noticed a large number of figures eventually become heavily discounted or just shelf-warm. I've seen this more often than figures that are popular and hard to get. And sometimes figures that are hard to get are due to poor Hasbro distribution as opposed to them flying off the shelves.

So back to the original question: does Generations sell well, and if so, why? This is genuine curiosity on my part.

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am just glad we still have transformers toys today. So many toylines have died or diminished over the years.

So I've actually been thinking about this recently. Do the Generations line sell very well?

I assume it must since Hasbro is still pumping out figures for it, and they're still occupying valuable shelf space at major retailers. But that's about the only reason I can think of it selling well.

RID and the movie toys I understand, it's based on current material that kids are excited to watch and want a related toy. From what I can gather, Generations is influenced by G1 and the current comics. I'm guessing a large percentage of folks buying this stuff are roughly in their 30s and loved the G1 show growing up (like myself), and another large group are those that follow the comics. For simplicity, I'm going to assume both groups are mutually exclusive, but they're probably not. In any case, I can't fathom both groups being large enough to drive sales numbers to justify the continuation of the line. Kids must also be buying this stuff, but how would they even know about this? A 10 year old that learned about Transformers from the Michael Bay movies and getting interested in Generations toys as a result seems a stretch to me.

The other thing is that in the past year and change I've been collecting, I've noticed a large number of figures eventually become heavily discounted or just shelf-warm. I've seen this more often than figures that are popular and hard to get. And sometimes figures that are hard to get are due to poor Hasbro distribution as opposed to them flying off the shelves.

So back to the original question: does Generations sell well, and if so, why? This is genuine curiosity on my part.

I'm not sure about ALL Generations stuff... but there are a LOT more empty spaces on the shelves in generations section then there are in the RID section where I am.

As for why?? I'm not sure. I'd like to think that transformers is inherently awesome and doesn't actually NEED media to back it up. Kids love robots... Kids love cars... Cars that turn into robots is just a perfect storm of awesome. Honestly, it's how I got into it as a kid.... mostly from gifts and such, but I already Optimus, Megatron and two dinobots before I ever heard about the cartoon... and was pleasantly surprised to realize I had the two leaders already.

More realistically...I'm sure the combiner aspect helped. If Superion looked cool... it required you to buy a whole wave. Titan Masters seems to have more shelfwarmers for me... Chromedome is seen a LOT around here, so I guess someone is picking and choosing... but those combiners? They almost insist you get everything. That HAS to help sales. RID??? They seem to have a much smaller cast and a LOT of repaints.

I also think there are a lot of G1ers out there passing this on to their kids. The cartoons, the movies, they're all very available to people who want to pass on their love. The kids may love something new and spiffy... but when birthdays come along, it's the adults who actually have the money to buy things, and they pick the stuff they want the kids to love

Personally I still get excited over finding original G1 figures out and about or reissued. I think of them as something unique and different in themselves and set them apart from modern Transformers. I could never choose either vintage or modern, to me they're two entirely different things and both make me equally happy. It's not just Transformers, I just like vintage robots in general, including Go Bots, Voltron, and whatever else I could get my hands on in the '80s. Probably why I like how much Hasbro is trying to make their new Transformers look like their old ones.

Emerje

phantom1592 wrote:

bodrock wrote:As a fan who leans more Geewhiner-than-Beastmaster, all I care about is - is this figure a good take on the character?

I do compare them to the original, if I had them, though.....and personally, when I think of true G1, to me it means prior to the '86 movie!

But I digress....

LOL! Yeah, I agree with that! For me, the movie kind of killed off transformers for me. Partly due to the fact that they outright murdered so many of my favorite characters... and partly because my stations didn't seem to carry season 3 when it came back. So I only saw Rodimus take over for Optimus... I never got to see him do any of the actual 'leading'.

The toys around that time? They started changing the core concept too much for me. once they started going from 'robots in disguise' to non-earth vehicles and Cyber-planes and stuff... i stopped getting them.

I first started with the toys... then The Marvel comics... then the cartoon. SO G1 means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. For me, those first 5-10 Marvel Comics were/are the core origins of the Transformers.

My collecting habits now? I love the original character designs. I HATED the original execution. Getting modern transformation tied in with the iconic character design... is my goal. The 'G1 with Knees' would be exactly what I wanted. I can't understand why people would have a problem with that?? Those original toys were... NOT great. The best of them were limited, the worst were bricks. That's what sold me on the new powermaster. Actual poseability.

But yeah, the 'fandom' is spread so wide, the hundreds of different goals people can have.

After the movie, I bought a few of the new schoolers - Kup, Blur, Springer, Gnaw, Wreck-Gar....but not Hot Rod, because my 9 y/o mind blamed him for Prime's "death"....and I saw most of season 3! One TV station showed up to Prime's return, then Transformers completely disappeared from TV.

I remember Pretenders, Headmasters....but they weren't like my beloved G1, and I felt I was done collecting. Then, in college, for some reason I searched on this site where you could find anything, called "eBay". I bought a loose/complete Snaptrap, and got over my Geewhineyness.

I didn't get fully back into it until my 3 & 5 year olds got into 'em...,and Combiner Wars spoke to my love of the Stunticons.

I love the TR line, and am looking forward to the new Prime!

I don't mind updates - especially when the original had some limitation of the toy technology of the day like with Doublecross.

But if you extend the point to Gi Joe then I get a little less sympathetic - as with 3.75" figures then they need enough joints to do the basic things to play with them more than 5 joints being preferred. But when Hasbro add so many joints (a few years ago) they actually started to limit their playbility with the finickiness of the joints and the clip on chest armour.

I'd rather have something that is truly usable. That is the problem sometimes with gimmicks or light and sound packs they sometimes cause problems.

I WILL NEVER judge something on the basis of a cartoon or comic alone. sure if they make something and it's the wrong colour I will complain about it but sometimes the right colour can be horribly ugly (Unite Warriors Blast Off for example).

I buy Transformers to play with so remaking the same few characters as happens with modern RID soon gets pretty tedious. I'd rather have a mix of characters and if they appear in a cartoon or not isn't a primary concern.

For example I've never bothered to watch The Japanese Headmasters Cartoon but I still want a Fangry Deluxe (Twinferno remould) simply as a like monsters & Beasts.

But the idea of just being offered the same 1984-86 cast over and over and over would soon drive me crazy - I actually want some new Characters from time to time too. There is a desperate lack of them.

Very true - I hadn't read any of MTME, but have the MMC Kultur figure on pre-order! Tarn just looked so cool.

Sabrblade wrote: while CHUG lines are where aspects of newness and creativity can be more freely applied to new toys of G1 characters.

Well that is still going on in he generations line but in a different way. In combiner wars, you had characters who couldnt combine in G1 that now could (ie sunstreaker) and for Titans Return you have a bunch of characters who now have a headmaster gimick. That is also newness, its just newness in playability and not necessarily the look of the figure.

nycPrime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:I am just glad we still have transformers toys today. So many toylines have died or diminished over the years.

So I've actually been thinking about this recently. Do the Generations line sell very well?

Yes, it sells well. The main problem with looking into this is that you end up with a demand that is manufactured. I will explain.

RID toys and movie toys sell more simply because toy stores stock more of them. They stock more of them because they are confident that they will sell more since there is prominent media backing it up. And so Hasbro manufactures more of those too.

The generations line will never sell as much because stores dont have the same confidence in them. But they still sell well for what they are. Hasbro was entirely sold out of their generations line a few months back so thats a good sign.

Where I live most TF sections are dwindling. They get about 4 feet across of shelf space, and often the pegs for TF merchandise get overrun with overstock from other lines because very rarely are TF shelf space "full". I think Black Friday TRU is the only time I saw them full, and you would think that is when they should have been empty because they were selling so much. Most targets in my area are at about 30-50% capacity, and most Walmarts 20-40%. I don't know if this is indicative of more online shopping, or kids in general aren't buying the toys anymore. Even in this sparse stocking its about a 50/50 split currently between RiD & Generatons, except for TRU where it is more like 75% RiD, and 25% Generations.

For the longest time I never collected the toys, so everytime I would see any interpretation of an Original Series figure in a new form I'd think "wow that pretty cool" but then move on. CW/UW was what finally brought me back. I know its kind of odd, and perhaps a bit hippocirical but...I'm kind of the opposite in that, I really don't care how a character is represented in toy form. It bothers me when more when they look "wrong" in animation and comics. Now granted, there has never been another animated series based on the original Transformers, aside from the original (except for Machinima's CW, which was god awful, but I will say the character designs themselves were actually decent). But I do take issue with a lot of the artists rendering s of characters in IDW comcis, especially MTMTE. I know this is a fan favorite, and that like in all comics artists interpretation can vary immensely. But when I cant recognize the character anymore, my inclination to care about that story diminishes immensely.

How does all this relate to Titans return you say? Well oddly enough, all these characters becoming "Headmasters" in the toys doesn't really bother me. Strangely enough though, what did bother me was that when IDW started making TF comics. If a single member of a subgroup would appear, I'd immediately wonder where the rest are. If a character that was released as a Headmaster, Targetmaster etc... originally was featured, I immediately wondered why they weren't portrayed as such in the comics. But then I stepped back and realized that HM's and TM's were tied to a certain event in the original Marvel comic, or Sunbow animated series, and in this alternate IDW G1-universe obviously that has not taken place. Oddly enough, IDW did have a small scale Titans Return event, but not every character we see in TR toys adopted this. Heck Galvatron is dead, and would have hated the idea of being bonded with another tiny robot.

So basically in summation- I am actually enjoying the TR toys. The fact that my son is enjoying them also is what drives me to continue to collect them. Sure the designs of the IDW comics at times still bother me, but that's what I have you guys for, to tell me who's who when I cant figure it out. As a kid I was a staunch part of the fiction from 1984-1987 (the first 4 years), had every character that was released as a toy, and in cartoon/comic fiction committed to memory, even to this day. In 1988 however, with the animated series not continuing, I decided to stop collecting the toys. I was 12 and this was my endpoint. Sure PM Prime and Piranacon looked cool, but I never got them initially. I continued to read the Marvel Comics, but any new character that appeared post 1987 I really didn't care about, this is still pretty much the same today.

o.supreme wrote:Where I live most TF sections are dwindling.

I'm seeing that by me too. A few months ago, the TRU by me, which traditionally stocks TFs quite well (not as well as Montreal though), didn't even have TFs in the TFs aisle! Instead, it was all TMNT on one side and Power Rangers on the other. TFs were unceremoniously moved to the next aisle without warning. The stock is still decent, but I feel like they lost some square footage. And the Target by me (there are only a few in Brooklyn and this is probably the one with the most foot traffic by far) has a pathetic TF selection. It was only recently that they got in Astrotrain and A3. For many weeks over the summer they literally had a total of less than 10 figures, and the majority was RID. I'm hoping this is all just a blip, but it's been a while since I've seen a good selection of figures near me.

nycPrime wrote:For many weeks over the summer they literally had a total of less than 10 figures, and the majority was RID. I'm hoping this is all just a blip, but it's been a while since I've seen a good selection of figures near me.

I think while the sections are dwindling this was just a change. I thought it was a bit strange also, I posted a while back, around that same time (summer). I think most Target stores were reorganizing their toy aisles. For a few weeks my local Target had not even an endcap, but one of those loose plastic strips you hang off of end caps...that was all their TF, and it was mostly smaller price point RiD. They put their old stock back in their stockroom just sitting there, until the department got reorganized. They should have put all that on clearance. I swear the same single Leader Starscream and Skywarp has been there for almost a year for $45. Most other stores put them on sale or clearance them out.

But hey this spring/summer I bet we have plenty of TLK merchandise to look forward to eh? eh???

Thanks to stinky and dingdOng of Cybertron.ca, we have confirmation of Transformers Titans Return Leader Class Sixshot with Decepticon Revolver Barrie area Walmart as well as Titans Return Legends Class wave 3 spotted at Canadian retail. While the Legends Class image shows just Bumblebee and Gnaw, Kickback is also part of the wave.

If you spot something new at retail let us know by using the Submit News link in the upper left hand corner of the front page. You can also let fellow collectors in your area know what is currently in local stores by posting in our Toy Sightings Forum.

Just out of curiosity when was the last time a Transformer showed up in the USA first? Any line. I can't really think of anything off the top of my head, seems like things show up in places like things show up in Canada or Australia or even parts of Europe long before we start seeing them here. Not that there's anything really wrong with that, it's just funny how much things have changed in the past 10 years or so.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Just out of curiosity when was the last time a Transformer showed up in the USA first? Any line. I can't really think of anything off the top of my head, seems like things show up in places like things show up in Canada or Australia or even parts of Europe long before we start seeing them here. Not that there's anything really wrong with that, it's just funny how much things have changed in the past 10 years or so.

Emerje

Didnt you get the first wave of combiner wars first? The first RID one steps for sure, along with thé most recent RID warriors. And you also got the wave 2 TR deluxes and titan masters first.

Saw Voyager Optimus and Megatron in SMYTHS in Waterford, shame it was too crowded to get any pics. Maybe after Christmas I'll get some

I had an awesome Christmas!