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[Rodimus Prime]

I have and like ER Arcee.

Statistically I suppose somebody has to.

Emerje

I'm proud to represent my fellow 1%-ers.

Defend her. I challenge you. Earcee sucks, convince me otherwise.

Well it depends on your expectations and collecting guidelines. I like ER Arcee because if you don't put the massive backpack on her, she's fairly accurate to TF:TM, which to me was the most important, as she is on my movie cast shelf. If this figure came in SS86, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. In robot mode, I just leave her half-car backpack in the box. She looks fine without it.

For me personally, it's not a problem that I don't use every part. That's why I said, it all depends on your rules for yourself. I know some people who are very retentive about partsforming and insist on not only every part being used, but that those parts stay attached during transformation. That's fine as well, whatever makes you happy. This is a hobby after all, happiness is its purpose. Im happy with my collection if all characters are 80% or above accurately represented in robot mode especially. ER Arcee fits that expectation for me. You'll never get 100%, not even with most MPs.

I'm not trying to really convince you, just giving you my reasoning.

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

I have and like ER Arcee.

Statistically I suppose somebody has to.

Emerje

I'm proud to represent my fellow 1%-ers.

Defend her. I challenge you. Earcee sucks, convince me otherwise.

Well it depends on your expectations and collecting guidelines. I like ER Arcee because if you don't put the massive backpack on her, she's fairly accurate to TF:TM, which to me was the most important, as she is on my movie cast shelf. If this figure came in SS86, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. In robot mode, I just leave her half-car backpack in the box. She looks fine without it.

For me personally, it's not a problem that I don't use every part. That's why I said, it all depends on your rules for yourself. I know some people who are very retentive about partsforming and insist on not only every part being used, but that those parts stay attached during transformation. That's fine as well, whatever makes you happy. This is a hobby after all, happiness is its purpose. Im happy with my collection if all characters are 80% or above accurately represented in robot mode especially. ER Arcee fits that expectation for me. You'll never get 100%, not even with most MPs.

I'm not trying to really convince you, just giving you my reasoning.

Ok. Thanks for explaining that without being angry

[Rodimus Prime]

I have and like ER Arcee.

Statistically I suppose somebody has to.

Emerje

I'm proud to represent my fellow 1%-ers.

Defend her. I challenge you. Earcee sucks, convince me otherwise.

Well it depends on your expectations and collecting guidelines. I like ER Arcee because if you don't put the massive backpack on her, she's fairly accurate to TF:TM, which to me was the most important, as she is on my movie cast shelf. If this figure came in SS86, I wouldn't have had a problem with it. In robot mode, I just leave her half-car backpack in the box. She looks fine without it.

For me personally, it's not a problem that I don't use every part. That's why I said, it all depends on your rules for yourself. I know some people who are very retentive about partsforming and insist on not only every part being used, but that those parts stay attached during transformation. That's fine as well, whatever makes you happy. This is a hobby after all, happiness is its purpose. Im happy with my collection if all characters are 80% or above accurately represented in robot mode especially. ER Arcee fits that expectation for me. You'll never get 100%, not even with most MPs.

I'm not trying to really convince you, just giving you my reasoning.

Ok. Thanks for explaining that without being angry

No problem, I rarely if ever get bothered by differences in opinion, especially in this hobby. As the saying goes, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. When T30 Arcee came out in 2014 or so, I never even considered getting her, as she was ugly and inaccurate with all the black parts, and from what I've seen, she's not that different structurally than ER Arcee. But those black parts made her a complete turn off for me, and I didn't bother getting any other Arcee until ER was released.

[Tuned Agent]

Seriously, half her altmode just disappears, the rest just morphs into her torso, and her limbs just magically extend outward from inside her body.

That's an accurate description of most G1 transformations to be fair.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Seriously, half her altmode just disappears, the rest just morphs into her torso, and her limbs just magically extend outward from inside her body.

That's an accurate description of most G1 transformations to be fair.

But the Movie/S3 bots and especially fembots take the cake!

[-Kanrabat-]

Seriously, half her altmode just disappears, the rest just morphs into her torso, and her limbs just magically extend outward from inside her body.

That's an accurate description of most G1 transformations to be fair.

But the Movie/S3 bots and especially fembots take the cake!

They take the cake, got the cake, and eat it too.

Especially Galvatron in AoE.
What a lazy cheater.

[Emerje]

Seriously, half her altmode just disappears, the rest just morphs into her torso, and her limbs just magically extend outward from inside her body.

That's an accurate description of most G1 transformations to be fair.

But the Movie/S3 bots and especially fembots take the cake!

They take the cake, got the cake, and eat it too.

Especially Galvatron in AoE.
What a lazy cheater.

He's talking about the animated movie and season 3.

Emerje

[RodimusPrimeUkraine1]

Seriously, half her altmode just disappears, the rest just morphs into her torso, and her limbs just magically extend outward from inside her body.

That's an accurate description of most G1 transformations to be fair.

But the Movie/S3 bots and especially fembots take the cake!

They take the cake, got the cake, and eat it too.

Especially Galvatron in AoE.
What a lazy cheater.

He's talking about the animated movie and season 3.

Emerje

Yeah, the fembots have odd transformations. Greenlight and Moonracer turn into THICK alt modes. Firestar's lower legs actually DETACH during her transformation. Not to mention Arcee' legs get fatter and turn grey.

[-Kanrabat-]

Seriously, half her altmode just disappears, the rest just morphs into her torso, and her limbs just magically extend outward from inside her body.

That's an accurate description of most G1 transformations to be fair.

But the Movie/S3 bots and especially fembots take the cake!

They take the cake, got the cake, and eat it too.

Especially Galvatron in AoE.
What a lazy cheater.

He's talking about the animated movie and season 3.

Emerje

I knew that. I was merely adding that the Baybots fit the bill perfectly.

Seriously, the only way to make those designs transformable and for them to look perfect in both modes is to make them at the MP scale with "black magic" engineering.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Seriously, half her altmode just disappears, the rest just morphs into her torso, and her limbs just magically extend outward from inside her body.

That's an accurate description of most G1 transformations to be fair.

But the Movie/S3 bots and especially fembots take the cake!

They take the cake, got the cake, and eat it too.

Especially Galvatron in AoE.
What a lazy cheater.

He's talking about the animated movie and season 3.

Emerje

I knew that. I was merely adding that the Baybots fit the bill perfectly.

Seriously, the only way to make those designs transformable and for them to look perfect in both modes is to make them at the MP scale with "black magic" engineering.

Or just use that newfangled Kinetic Sand.

[chuckdawg1999]

[EvasionModeBumblebee]

At long last, we have a leaked picture of SS leader class The Fallen! They have him folded up like a pretzel, but we can see he does have the removable face and some seemingly very well articulated arm support struts like what we see in the movie. PVP also mentioned that he has the Fallen in-hand and that we can expect a review in a few days.

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Not sure what the watermark is, I think it might be the username of the person who originally uploaded it?

[william-james88]

We have out first look at the Transformers Studio Series leader class Fallen figure and while it does not give us a great look at the figure due to a big watermark, we do get a pretty important piece of news: it will have a removeable face gimmick. We can see in the image the face/mask along with the head underneath it. We do not know if what is shown in the figure is the complete figure and we still do not know what the alt mode will look like. We should know more soon though so keep your eye out on our site.

[SpaceEagle]

I have an inkling that this figure is an incomplete copy because of the (seeming) lack of staff The Fallen had in the film. Still, quite interesting to see that this'll be an upcoming release, I presume they'll base the alternate mode off of the old Voyager toy's spacejet mode.

[Emerje]

I have an inkling that this figure is an incomplete copy because of the (seeming) lack of staff The Fallen had in the film. Still, quite interesting to see that this'll be an upcoming release, I presume they'll base the alternate mode off of the old Voyager toy's spacejet mode.

The ball joints that aren't connected to anything is a big clue that this is an incomplete and/or disassembled figure. Really hard to form an opinion based on this picture.

Emerje

[SpaceEagle]

I have an inkling that this figure is an incomplete copy because of the (seeming) lack of staff The Fallen had in the film. Still, quite interesting to see that this'll be an upcoming release, I presume they'll base the alternate mode off of the old Voyager toy's spacejet mode.

The ball joints that aren't connected to anything is a big clue that this is an incomplete and/or disassembled figure. Really hard to form an opinion based on this picture.

Emerje

Yeah, I am keen to see more! The article mentioned it was incomplete (go figure) so I wonder how the full package will look.

[blackeyedprime]

Whatever head is on it now makes it look more like American horror story collab hahaha

[primalxconvoy]

Prime: - Give me your face!

Fallen: - Ok, here you are...

[-Kanrabat-]

So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

[Spider5800]

So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

"Voyager +" tends to come with something else to make up the price (Siege Shockwave, Earthrise Astrotrain, SS Starscream), and I can't think of anything he could come with that would make up that much of a price difference. His staff isn't big enough, and he didn't have anything else in the film memorable enough to include. Plus, Fallen in the film is pretty large (taller than Megs, and I believe about the same height as OP AFTER he gets Jetfire glued to him), so I'll be surprised if he isn't an actual leader size (admittedly, not what it used to be).

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm excited to see more of him!

[william-james88]

So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

He was as big as Prime combined with Jetfire so he will be bigger than a Voyager.

[-Kanrabat-]

So The Fallen will be a leader.
Hard to tell if it will be a genuine sizeable leader or just a "voyager +".

He was as big as Prime combined with Jetfire so he will be bigger than a Voyager.

Let hope as massive as AoE Grimlock.

[Emerje]

Unless he's more complex than the photos let on I think they could have gone "tall Voyager" with the Fallen since SS Jetfire Optimus Prime isn't that tall. Combining the two just gets Prime up to Megatron's size, he's only bigger if you really lean Megs forward like this.

Photo from Actar on TFW2005

Emerje

[DedicatedGhost]

Imagine seeing your leader literally skin an enemy's face for no reason before killing them, and then thinking "wow what a hero".