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[Sentinel_Primal]

In case this hasn't already been asked:

Are we more excited for a Kingdom Commander class Hot Rod, or SS86 Hot Rod?

Personally, SS Hot Rod. I don't really like the idea of wasting the Commander class slot for him when there are so many better choices, plus SS Hot Rod does everything I need a Hot Rod to do

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I’m glad that these won’t share numbering with the usual Studio Series, but I am worried that these and Devastator will be our only “reveals” on Friday.

I'm thinking we'll see some Bayverse stuff, maybe only 3 figures, but we'll see some. They have to reveal the entire next wave, and those pre-orders would likely be filled in January.

I'm thinking Bumblebee, Grindor, and maybe Jolt or Dino.

In case this hasn't already been asked:

Are we more excited for a Kingdom Commander class Hot Rod, or SS86 Hot Rod?

Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

SS Hot Rod all the way there, but even then, I'd be far more excited for SS TLK Hot Rod

[Razorbeast88]

Are there any leaked pictures of commander class hot rod? Sorry this is first im hearing of this

[Razorbeast88]

I agree that commander class shouldve been something else, I wouldve loved tigerhawk, depth charge, or magmatron

[sol magnus]

Maybe it is just the picture quality but Jazz and Grimlock look more like R.E.D. figures than Generations figures. I guess that is the point of Studio Series, make them look exactly like they did on screen, but something about those two seems off. Looking forward to an official reveal and better quality pics.

The picture with Jazz and Grimlock is stretched out of proportion.

[Munkky]

The 86 figures look decent enough, I probably will get at least Hot Rod, but I'll need to see more of Grimlock before I commit to a purchase. Wheelie supposedly not transforming as some people have said isn't necessarily a deal breaker, but with Kingdom also coming up, I need to decide whether or not the G1 Dinobots really have a place in my collection.

[Starbuck14]

Soooo excited to get this series as a figure line....but, there is a but.....what if...what if they are giving us ANOTHER studio series g1 combiner wars replica of devastator....and another wfc Megatron and Optimus repaint.

[just_aCloud]

Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

I don't think I could agree more--CC Rodimus is a letdown for me. However, that still falls into the speculation-leaked-but-not-officially-confirmed category....right? I mean there's still an ounce of hope left.

[Sabrblade]

Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

I don't think I could agree more--CC Rodimus is a letdown for me. However, that still falls into the speculation-leaked-but-not-officially-confirmed category....right? I mean there's still an ounce of hope left.

Yes. But, it would very surprising if Rodimus Prime turns out to be any other size class than the Commander since we know he's the Kingdom line but all of the Voyager and Leader slots have been taken by others in the leaks, leaving Commander the only remaining slot to speculate for him.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

@D-Max Commander Class Rodimus is also just wild speculation, unless I've missed something. It would be oversize, Leader would be better. We need a Leader Roddy, and a Voyager Wreck-Gar.

Who knows, maybe a miracle will occur and Hasbro will see sense and make Earth-mode Magnus a Commander-class instead of Leader-class (Commander-class UM actually makes sense, because it would allow more trailer space to carry cars with), freeing up a Leader spot for Rodimus Prime.

Geez, the Grimlock-Jazz-Kup pic is just a biiiiiit horizontally squashed.

Grimlock's accessories are disappointing, as are the yellow chest (really hope that's turned gold before the real release) and the simplified cartoony block details on his legs (where the G1 toy and the PotP Voyager had detailed greebling stickers). But even with those knocks against him, he's my most-anticipated figure of the bunch (although that might change if clearer photos reveal his sculpt to be stupidly low in detail).

Based on what we've seen so far, going to get Grimlock, Kup (I'd be lest interested if there was a "rounded arms" kit for TR Kup but there's not, and this also gives rounded fenders in the truck mode), Scourge, Hot Rod (because I like Hot Rod and this is a good one, even with as good as the TR version is and the extra work I put into mine). "Eh" on Blurr (because of how good TR Blurr already is, especially after repainting) and Jazz (because of how good RTS Jazz is and this one pulling a disappearing act with the doors). They look nice, I'm just "eh" on them personally because I already have really really really good options.

[just_aCloud]

Yes. But, it would very surprising if Rodimus Prime turns out to be any other size class than the Commander since we know he's the Kingdom line but all of the Voyager and Leader slots have been taken by others in the leaks, leaving Commander the only remaining slot to speculate for him.

Hey let a man dream!

[Wolfman Jake]

I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere, but looking at the Studio Series '86 boxes, it's obvious that they do come with carboard backgrounds for each figure, just like in the regular Studio Series live action movie releases. That is a nice touch.

"Eh" on Blurr (because of how good TR Blurr already is, especially after repainting) and Jazz (because of how good RTS Jazz is and this one pulling a disappearing act with the doors).

There has been some murmuring from some of the leakers who have seen Studio Series 86 Jazz that his door wings can be deployed in robot mode for his G1 toy look, but it's not necessary if you want to maintain the screen accurate look of the Sunbow character model without them. We'll see soon enough if this is true.

[ZeldaTheSwordsman]

I didn't see this mentioned elsewhere, but looking at the Studio Series '86 boxes, it's obvious that they do come with carboard backgrounds for each figure, just like in the regular Studio Series live action movie releases. That is a nice touch.

"Eh" on Blurr (because of how good TR Blurr already is, especially after repainting) and Jazz (because of how good RTS Jazz is and this one pulling a disappearing act with the doors).

There has been some murmuring from some of the leakers who have seen Studio Series 86 Jazz that his door wings can be deployed in robot mode for his G1 toy look, but it's not necessary if you want to maintain the screen accurate look of the Sunbow character model without them. We'll see soon enough if this is true.

Hopefully it is. Although, given limited finances and the fact that RTS Jazz is still a really really good figure... It's not that I hate him, it's just that I already have one that's still highly satisfactory.

Reiterating something I added to my previous post, it would make more sense for Earth Mode Ultra Magnus to be Commander-class (because there's no slagging way a modern Leader-class could hold 4 Deluxe cars) and Rodimus Prime to be Leader-class, so here's hoping it will turn out Magnus was listed in the wrong size class or something.

[Immortal Starscream]

Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

I don't think I could agree more--CC Rodimus is a letdown for me. However, that still falls into the speculation-leaked-but-not-officially-confirmed category....right? I mean there's still an ounce of hope left.

Yes. But, it would very surprising if Rodimus Prime turns out to be any other size class than the Commander since we know he's the Kingdom line but all of the Voyager and Leader slots have been taken by others in the leaks, leaving Commander the only remaining slot to speculate for him.

The one thing to also consider, if rumors are to be believed, that the Rodimus Prime for kingdom was being referred to as "Mutant" rodimus. meaning it is quite plausible that we are not looking at a g1 rodimus prime at all. Rather, a Rodimus Primal if you will. Remember back in the beast wars days, when an image of the next new Cheetor toy leaked, and everyone was convinced he was Rodimus Primal? good times.

[just_aCloud]

...it would make more sense for Earth Mode Ultra Magnus to be Commander-class (because there's no slagging way a modern Leader-class could hold 4 Deluxe cars) and Rodimus Prime to be Leader-class, so here's hoping it will turn out Magnus was listed in the wrong size class or something.

See! I like you! You'll let a man dream! I like that!!

[Sentinel_Primal]

Commander Rodimus is a compete and utter joke. Should've been something like Tigerhawk or Magnaboss.

I don't think I could agree more--CC Rodimus is a letdown for me. However, that still falls into the speculation-leaked-but-not-officially-confirmed category....right? I mean there's still an ounce of hope left.

Yes. But, it would very surprising if Rodimus Prime turns out to be any other size class than the Commander since we know he's the Kingdom line but all of the Voyager and Leader slots have been taken by others in the leaks, leaving Commander the only remaining slot to speculate for him.

The one thing to also consider, if rumors are to be believed, that the Rodimus Prime for kingdom was being referred to as "Mutant" rodimus. meaning it is quite plausible that we are not looking at a g1 rodimus prime at all. Rather, a Rodimus Primal if you will. Remember back in the beast wars days, when an image of the next new Cheetor toy leaked, and everyone was convinced he was Rodimus Primal? good times.

That list was proven false by Appolux and other leakers immediately because the Commander class figure was a Beast Wars guy, and so was the titan I believe

[durroth]

That grimlock needs a haspulse release with a new paintjob.

[blackeyedprime]

Ss hotrod and kingdom commander rod will be the same figure lol
If tigerhawk was commander class we'd need a new commader optimal with all his modes.

Not sure I'll be keeping the backgrounds for the ss86 figures but they are nice to have and I should probably keep them with the figures being a few quid more.

[Nemesis Primal]

Of these, I'm still only interested in Jazz, so I am quite keen on seeing a proper reveal for him this Friday and seeing what else they have in store. Blurr has never really appealed to me as a character, and Grim's too Sunbow for my tastes and comes with a Wheelie I don't want.

Of note regarding the Rodimus discourse: one of the credible TFW sources outright said Rodimus is the Commander as of this morning during discussion of this leak.

@D-Max Commander Class Rodimus is also just wild speculation, unless I've missed something. It would be oversize, Leader would be better. We need a Leader Roddy, and a Voyager Wreck-Gar.

All the credible rumors I've seen surrounding Commander Class Rodimus have pegged him as being exactly what you yourself put forth as what ER Optimus should/could have been at this pricepoint: still a Voyager-ish base figure, but with a full-size fleshed-out trailer and a large collection of accessories.

EDIT: Also looks like Apollux confirmed a Voyager SS86 Wreck-Gar is coming as of earlier this morning as well, so you are getting that.

[bodrock]

DAT JAZZ! And Grimlock for me, plz.

[Rodimus Prime]

So I'm guessing this leak is from the same person who leaked the Devastator set, since that pic was stretched as well. I'm passing on Kup, but Jazz and Hot Rod are a buy for sure, and most likely so is Blurr, even though I love the TR figure. And Grimlock looks like an oversized Action Master. He will be an in-hand decision, or at the very least I want so see some reviews.

[Sowndwave76]

I get that maybe the yellow torso for Grimlock in the '86 movie was possibly supposed to represent a gold color... But I even find that to be a stretch; a color closer to ochre illustrated with yellow-tint highlights could've been used, and would've appeared more metallic.
Of anything I can see so far (I get the image isn't good), that's not something I'd complain about.
In fact, saying this figure could be "too cartoony" seems a bit myopic.
Where I would give on this a little would be with the dino mode.
But even then, here's my thought; no previous version was very cartoony, and most likely no version after this one will be either.
So based on the goal of this line in terms of appearance, I'm going to appreciate it for what it is.
In fact I think I'm finally excited about TF again.

I am on the fence about Kup and Blurr... We'll see.

And I agree that Commander Class probably wasn't the best choice for Rodimus.
Although, if the trailer is a substantial portion of the figure's overall size and bulk, who knows...
It may work.

Despite the distorted image, anyone think they have a good estimation of how tall Grimlock is compared to ER Voayger Prime?

[Bombshell0001]

I sure hope that they make the other 3 dinobots .

[bodrock]

An eye-popping Sludge would be a must-have! O-o

[Sowndwave76]

An eye-popping Sludge would be a must-have! O-o

I really hope that Hastak keeps the Leader Class Dinobots going, even if they don't have plans to include the others in this line... Even Swoop... Heck, if the others are done in the same design style, pack Swoop with 5 swords if his size doesn't technically make him leader class.