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News Credits: 2 · by **Crosscheck** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:03 am

I like him. He ends up this squat, beefy boi. I really hope he has a weapon or two included somehow though. He needs a gun or a sword.Since Monstructor/Dinoking comes with a big gun, give Volcanicus a sword instead, Hasbro!

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:26 am

I never really saw much talk here regarding Legacy Knockout. That toy is not good. I really hate when the knees can easily be disconnected. And overall, it just doesn't feel solid or cohesive.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:43 am

william-james88 wrote:I never really saw much talk here regarding Legacy Knockout. That toy is not good. I really hate when the knees can easily be disconnected. And overall, it just doesn't feel solid or cohesive.

I find the back to be more fiddly and fragile than 86 Jazz. The weapon is kinda cool but a touch unwieldy when combined.

News Credits: 96 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:30 am

william-james88 wrote:I never really saw much talk here regarding Legacy Knockout. That toy is not good. I really hate when the knees can easily be disconnected. And overall, it just doesn't feel solid or cohesive.

Ooooffff...

And the fact that it's not Knock-Out, but Knock-Outish doesn't help his case.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 8:21 am

Gobots Monstrous

Would love it if they did this, but that's much to extensive of a retool to pull off. Still, feels like there's some inspiration at play between Swoop and Grimlock.

Emerje

News Credits: 1 · by **Rtron** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:09 am

I really hope we get a Monstructor version of the core Dinobots, not just a Dinoking one. I also find it very funny that they're going to be the smallest combiner AGAIN.

Super hyped for Armada Optimus Prime, and TulioDude's reaction was also something I was looking forward to, lol

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 10:13 am

It would have to be very different as well, since Bandai owns the rights to Machine Robo Devil Satan 6 ( Monstrous' original name in Japan). Since Bandai is doing updates of Machine Robo. I wondered if they would ever get to this, or the Power Suits, or even Puzzler for that matter.

by **cruizerdave** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:11 am

That looks almost as bad as the first attempt at Volcanicus!

News Credits: 10 · by **transformers_va** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:22 am

william-james88 wrote:You once talked to me about good design vs bad design, how would you characterize these mini dinos?

I would consider them good design, for their price point. They're definitely fun desk toys, and their ability to combine is excellent, but with that being said, I'm not keen on the core class figures overall. Personally, I'd prefer Hasbro put more focus into the larger classes. I'd rather pay ~$24 for a good deluxe, than paying ~$12 for a tiny core figure with limited articulation.

News Credits: 10 · by **transformers_va** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:51 am

william-james88 wrote:I really hate when the knees can easily be disconnected.

100% agree! However, in my opinion, Knockout isn't the worst offender. For me, it's the Legacy Armada Hot Shot... those knees are awful! (at least on my copy)

News Credits: 30 · by **DeathReviews** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:22 pm

Not seeing anything, even as a gestalt, which makes me want to collect the Core Dinobot figures. I'll save my mortal smackers for Leader Swoop when that comes out...

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 12:23 pm

DeathReviews wrote:Not seeing anything, even as a gestalt, which makes me want to collect the Core Dinobot figures. I'll save my mortal smackers for Leader Swoop when that comes out...

You ever get that Cosmos? Nevermind, I see you reviewed it. Glad you finally got it.

Like TOO MUCH ENERGON! on Facebook · by **TOO MUCH ENERGON!** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:37 pm

I was considering trying to track these down, but man that is one ugly combiner.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:01 pm

Doesn't look that far off from the proportions of his POTP cartoon model:

News Credits: 9 · by **Omegatron.** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:02 pm

There are even more pictures of the new Armada Optimus here and here if anyone wants to see them.

News Credits: 10 · by **sol magnus** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 2:29 pm

He looks great. I want to skip him, but...ugh. He's looking pretty awesome.

News Credits: 1 · by **Brokebot** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:21 pm

o.supreme wrote: I wondered if they would ever get to this, or the Power Suits, or even Puzzler for that matter.

If anyone puts out a new Puzzler that doesn't suck, I'll be all over it. As for this guy, he doesn't look as bad as I expected but he doesn't look good enough to waste money on. I have a Micro Monstructor, I don't need another one.

News Credits: 55 · by **o.supreme** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:25 pm

So is that the original Overload or a new one? Super interesting if it is compatible with an almost 20 year old toy.

I'm glad its coming for those that want it. I have zero interest, but knowing Hasbro, they will make the trailer Airlock compatible just to spite me.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:01 pm

o.supreme wrote:So is that the original Overload or a new one? Super interesting if it is compatible with an almost 20 year old toy.

It's the original. Though, it might just be sitting balanced on top of the figure, rather than actually attached to it.

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:04 pm

o.supreme wrote:So is that the original Overload or a new one? Super interesting if it is compatible with an almost 20 year old toy.

I'm glad its coming for those that want it. I have zero interest, but knowing Hasbro, they will make the trailer Airlock compatible just to spite me.

It looks like the original one. Though no way to know if it's actually attached and not just balanced on him.

As for the rest of the pictures. Damn, that Prime is looking mighty nice.

MSRP $90?

I'm definitely picking that one up.
We'll need to start saving some money for him.

william-james88 wrote:I never really saw much talk here regarding Legacy Knockout. That toy is not good. I really hate when the knees can easily be disconnected. And overall, it just doesn't feel solid or cohesive.

I'm gonna have to disagree. Knockout is o.k. He';s not great ir fantastic, but he's fine for what he is. I've had no issues with his knees. What's not cohesive about him?

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:27 pm

william-james88 wrote:I never really saw much talk here regarding Legacy Knockout. That toy is not good. I really hate when the knees can easily be disconnected. And overall, it just doesn't feel solid or cohesive.

You didn't really see much talk probably because that toy was not good. I was super disappointed in that Knock Out, was from the moment it was revealed. They removed everything in that robot mode that was actually "Knock Out". They even screwed up the head.

Armada Optimus Prime looks AMAZING!! WOW!!!!!!!!

Also, I thought I saw it somewhere, but I like it when combiners are thick and thicc. They look more muscular, and more likely to take advantage of their size. If you take CW Defensor and replace Blades with the deluxe Groove, his proportions are basically perfect for me.

News Credits: 317 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:42 pm

Brokebot wrote:
o.supreme wrote: I wondered if they would ever get to this, or the Power Suits, or even Puzzler for that matter.

If anyone puts out a new Puzzler that doesn't suck, I'll be all over it. As for this guy, he doesn't look as bad as I expected but he doesn't look good enough to waste money on. I have a Micro Monstructor, I don't need another one.

Bandai isn't doing the GoBot era of Machine Robo, they have a new line called Unit Roborn. Action Toys and now Moderiod (or something like that) are doing toys based on Revenge of Cronos. Action toys haven't had a new release in a LONG time though.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:38 pm

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I like it when combiners are thick and thicc. They look more muscular, and more likely to take advantage of their size. If you take CW Defensor and replace Blades with the deluxe Groove, his proportions are basically perfect for me.

Agreed on the bulkiness of the combiners, but I do think the Hotspot/Onslaught mold needs updated. In torso mode it's kinda stiff and limited. Not nearly as bad as the Motormaster mold, but worse than the Cyclonus/Silverbolt one.

Hopefully if Legacy gives us more full-sized combiners, Defensor is next.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:47 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I like it when combiners are thick and thicc. They look more muscular, and more likely to take advantage of their size. If you take CW Defensor and replace Blades with the deluxe Groove, his proportions are basically perfect for me.
Agreed on the bulkiness of the combiners, but I do think the Hotspot/Onslaught mold needs updated. In torso mode it's kinda stiff and limited. Not nearly as bad as the Motormaster mold, but worse than the Cyclonus/Silverbolt one.

Hopefully if Legacy gives us more full-sized combiners, Defensor is next.

Outside of Menasor, I am perfectly OK with us leaving the combiners alone for a while that were done in CW and PotP.

If we must do a combiner a year, I'd like to see combiners not yet done, such as a full sized Monstructor, and maybe expand outside of G1 and do new Beast, RiD2001, or Energon combiners.