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[84everfan]

I'm lost. Time to stop, methinks.

Indeed. As mentioned to me before, these kind of people tend to pop up out of the woodwork whenever a new show launches. Sad really.

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[Sabrblade]

Okay, ease up, there, kid.

We were all young once and know how passionate we can get at that age. But it ultimately doesn't amount to anything helpful.

Take a deep breath... and calm yourself, please.

[First-Aid]

Not worth signing up for paramount Plus for. In addition, internet is too unreliable out here in rural areas for good streaming (includes cellular signals, which are often 3G out here). Unfortunately, the 25% of the American population in rural America that can't get good internet without paying tons to Viasat or Hughesnet doesn't matter to these companies. Starlink is the final answer to that, but it's a very slow rollout. If I want to see it, I'll have to hope for some kind of DVD release.

Pirate it. Don't give them the satisfaction of buying a DVD. This is the only way they learn, and you won't have to worry about viruses if you use Brave which I'm using as I type this. Completely safe, pirating from companies that don't put in the effort or the money we know they all have is ALWAYS morally correct.

The issue is the lack of internet, as I said. I'd have to find someone to do it for me. The best internet speeds we get in most cases as far out as I am from any civilization is 12-14 mps at a cost of $150-200 a month.

[84everfan]

Okay, ease up, there, kid.

We were all young once and know how passionate we can get at that age. But it ultimately doesn't amount to anything helpful.

Take a deep breath... and calm yourself, please.

Yeah, blind praise helps loads. That's why we have no movies with a consistent continuity and get the same corporate schlock with more emphasis on test audiences than actual artistic drive.
This doesn't come from a place of nostalgia, it comes from a place of knowing how original and fresh every installment USED to be.

"BuT uLtImAtElY it dOesN'T aMoUnT To anYthINg hElPfUl"

It's constructive criticism, pure and simple. I'm sorry you and your site can't handle anything more than the same fencepost sitting over and over copy and pasted by the same five people.
Don't patronize me.
Change doesn't happen with you buying the same crap and wonder why things don't get better WITH THE MONEY YOU GIVE THEM.

[84everfan]

The issue is the lack of internet, as I said. I'd have to find someone to do it for me. The best internet speeds we get in most cases as far out as I am from any civilization is 12-14 mps at a cost of $150-200 a month.

Fair enough, but if you ever do get the opportunity, don't give them the satisfaction of using their methods of viewing, they've done nothing to earn our trust.

[Sabrblade]

Okay, ease up, there, kid.

We were all young once and know how passionate we can get at that age. But it ultimately doesn't amount to anything helpful.

Take a deep breath... and calm yourself, please.

Yeah, blind praise helps loads. That's why we have no movies with a consistent continuity and get the same corporate schlock with more emphasis on test audiences than actual artistic drive.
This doesn't come from a place of nostalgia, it comes from a place of knowing how original and fresh every installment USED to be.

"BuT uLtImAtElY it dOesN'T aMoUnT To anYthINg hElPfUl"

It's constructive criticism, pure and simple.

Cool story, bro.

I'm sorry you and your site can't handle anything more than the same fencepost sitting over and over copy and pasted by the same five people.
Don't patronize me.
Change doesn't happen with you buying the same crap and wonder why things don't get better WITH THE MONEY YOU GIVE THEM.

..."My" site?

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Alright! He said it here, folks! Guess I'm in charge now. LET'S PARTY!!!

[First-Aid]

..."My" site?

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Alright! He said it here, folks! Guess I'm in charge now. LET'S PARTY!!!

YES! I have 16 types of whiskey in my bar. What is your pleasure?

[Sabrblade]

..."My" site?

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Alright! He said it here, folks! Guess I'm in charge now. LET'S PARTY!!!

YES! I have 16 types of whiskey in my bar. What is your pleasure?

A Blue Raspberry Slurpee, 7Eleven brand.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

OK everyone, time to throttle back.

84everfan, I am going to give you a verbal warning right now. There really isn't a need to go nuts with the angry posts, especially when you start insulting/calling other site members names and dropping some crude media content.

Further antagonism like this will result in a physical warning being issued. If you need to brush up on the site rules and the guidelines for warnings, please see HERE

Now, back on topic everyone.

Thanks

[First-Aid]

..."My" site?

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Alright! He said it here, folks! Guess I'm in charge now. LET'S PARTY!!!

YES! I have 16 types of whiskey in my bar. What is your pleasure?

A Blue Raspberry Slurpee, 7Eleven brand.

Amateur. I live in Wisconsin. We KNOW how to drink properly.

[Sabrblade]

And now, Paramount has uploaded Episodes 1 and 2 together as one video on YouTube, this time available for those in the U.S. to watch:

[AllNewSuperRobot]

this time available for those in the U.S. to watch:

...Only

[Sabrblade]

At long last, after waiting all day long, all ten episodes have finally been uploaded to KimCartoon. Now anyone anywhere can watch them.

[MaximalNui]

That flashback sequence was very very basic. The animation was very minimalistic, with mostly shots of stilled images staying put or sliding across the screen, with only a handful of shots that were properly animated fully. It reminded me a lot of how Filmation cartoons of the 1970s were animated, like Star Trek: The Animated Series. Most of it also looked to be completely traced over from certain shots of the G1 cartoon and movie, rather than completely original animation.

It should also probably be pointed out that in no way can this show actually serve as a sequel to the G1 cartoon. The details don't match up at all. The Autobots and Decepticons came to Earth not aboard the Ark and Nemesis four million years ago, but through the space bridge in 1984. The events of TFTM seemingly never happened either, as Megatron is still Megatron and the war apparently ended when Optimus made the decision to destroy the space bridge, as it was the Transformers' only way back to Cybertron. Meaning there were no space-worthy guys like Omega Supreme, Astrotrain, Sky Lynx, etc. in the Earth-based war. Elita One was also apparently part of the Earth-based Autobots, when her G1 cartoon episode made it abundantly clear that she and the other female Autobots missed the boat on that one.

I only bring all this up because, as soon as the first trailer that showed our first glimpse of this flashback went online, the Internet exploded with people jumping up and down saying "IT'S A SEQUEL TO THE G1 CARTOON!!!"

The use of Sunbow art seems to have been as inciting online, as that time Animated used some. It's been nearly 40 years, people. They are never going to do a sequel to Sunbow. Nor should they. Plenty of better writing and continuities have kept the series going til this point.

Meanwhile, I noticed the lack of Space fliers too. The loss of a space bridge isn't a big deal to any of those Sabr mentioned. Also, if TFTM never happened. That would explain Megatron. In that he never had his single moment as a true threat...

Well, to quote Douglas Adams, "Space is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly, mind-bogglingly huge it is. I mean, you might think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's peanuts to space". It might be that the space flyers can't reach FTL speed and the spacebridge is the only reliable way to travel between planets that doesn't take millions of years.

Then again, given the ridiculously-long lifespans Transformers tend to have, a million-year trip might just be a country-wide cruise for them.

Anyway, one thing no one seems to gbe discussing: Clancy Brown is credited as Quintus Prime in the first episode. Since the only unknown voice in that episode is the cave echo when the Terrans are born, that means that was Quintus. So not only are we having more focus on the Thirteen, the stone that created the Terrans is most likely the Emberstone and not the Allspark.

So, anyone with a Paramount+ subscription can tell us if the rest of the episodes have a full intro sequence, or is it just the title animation?

[Sabrblade]

At long last, after waiting all day long, all ten episodes have finally been uploaded to KimCartoon. Now anyone anywhere can watch them.

Forget what I said about KimCartoon. That site's pop-up ads have become way too infuriating to deal with (the videos won't play at all if any adblocker is turned on). Luckily, all ten episodes are also now on WatchCartoonOnline (wcofun.net), a much more generous site with significantly less frustration.

Anyway, one thing no one seems to gbe discussing: Clancy Brown is credited as Quintus Prime in the first episode. Since the only unknown voice in that episode is the cave echo when the Terrans are born, that means that was Quintus. So not only are we having more focus on the Thirteen, the stone that created the Terrans is most likely the Emberstone and not the Allspark.

I haven't mentioned it yet because, as of this typing, I'm still making my way through the episodes and didn't want to bring it up yet until after having finished the first ten episodes, in case there was any more info given on the matter in those episodes. Right now, I'm about to start Episodes 9 and 10.

So, anyone with a Paramount+ subscription can tell us if the rest of the episodes have a full intro sequence, or is it just the title animation?

Just the title animation, sadly.

[blackeyedprime]

No wonder megatron didnt speak in the first episode, nooooo.

also kinda just waiting for optimus to call someone a shitpocket.

[MaximalNui]

Anyway, one thing no one seems to gbe discussing: Clancy Brown is credited as Quintus Prime in the first episode. Since the only unknown voice in that episode is the cave echo when the Terrans are born, that means that was Quintus. So not only are we having more focus on the Thirteen, the stone that created the Terrans is most likely the Emberstone and not the Allspark.

I haven't mentioned it yet because, as of this typing, I'm still making my way through the episodes and didn't want to bring it up yet until after having finished the first ten episodes, in case there was any more info given on the matter in those episodes. Right now, I'm about to start Episodes 9 and 10.

So, how are you liking them so far?

So, anyone with a Paramount+ subscription can tell us if the rest of the episodes have a full intro sequence, or is it just the title animation?

Just the title animation, sadly.

Bummer.

[william-james88]

The entirety of Season 1 of Transformers Eartrhspark was put up on Paramount Plus 2 days ago. Since then the show has been found across different channels internationally, with Spanish dubs on Youtube and even a marathon on Pluto TV's Transformers channel. For anyone curious, here is a review of the first two episodes, Secret Legacy Parts 1 and 2, which serve as the pilot to the show (and is even aired as a 40 minute episode in some places).

Review of Transformers: EarthSpark Episode 1-2 Secret Legacy

The show wastes no time getting the ball rolling. Within just a few minutes, we are introduced to the main characters and their bond to this strange new breed of Transformers which were formed in a cave thanks to the Emberstone from Quintus Prime. Now, yes, that is one hell of a deep cut, but what I like best is that since the show is clearly aimed at kids and not fans, this reference is not meant for fans but rather the writers using elements from the lore of the past 35 years and introducing it to a new generation of fans.

While many elements of the show will feel familiar, the take presented here is a new one. All the Transformers media we have experienced in the real world are in this show as well BUT in that world they are fictional retellings of what really happened. So you will get nods to the G1 show, IDW comics and loads of Transformers merchandise. This puts a new dymanic here that we haven't seen for years where it's not about robots in disguise but robots living among us and Transformers being seen like the Avengers in the MCU. This media is referenced when showing the new Transformers what they are. We soon get an idea of the conflict at hand where you have a human threat, Mandroid, capturing Cybertronians (specifically Decepticons) to experiment and learn more about their technology and how he can use it. The two parter ends with a showdown against Mandroid and his brainwashed Decepticons.

This leads me to talk about the action: it is excellent. While I am not a fan of some of the human characterizations, the action is what really impressed me. The fights among the bots feels fluid and dynamic, more so than anything I've ever seen in a live action film. We see lots of transformations too and it's incorporated into the fighting. We get to see Megatron in action and I am happy to report that while he is working with humans here, he still felt very much like Megatron to me, not neutered. His personality will feel very familiar to anyone who read the IDW comics, but of course remember that this is within a kids' show so the tone is levelled to that effect.

As for voice work, everything felt fine. I am impressed with Alan Tudyk's Optimus Prime since he aces that difficult balance of having a familiar Optimus Prime voice without it being an imitation of Peter Cullen. Also, regarding Optimus, it seemed at first like they were reusing the Evergreen design but seeing the character model in action it is a new take on it. I especially like how we can see he is a long nose truck in bot mode, with the nose adding a tapered effect to his abdomen where the grill is. Incorporations of the alt mode like that is found across the character models, which is always welcome from me, like seeing the car doors on Elita's shins and all the Transformations look well thought out.

Overall, I like everything concerning the bots in terms of action, designs, personality and story. I am not a fan of the characterizations for some of the human characters (especially the older kid) but it wasn't enough to be a turnoff from the show as a whole. I am glad the show is around and I see it creating new young fans.

[Burn]

At long last, after waiting all day long, all ten episodes have finally been uploaded to KimCartoon. Now anyone anywhere can watch them.

Forget what I said about KimCartoon. That site's pop-up ads have become way too infuriating to deal with (the videos won't play at all if any adblocker is turned on). Luckily, all ten episodes are also now on WatchCartoonOnline (wcofun.net), a much more generous site with significantly less frustration.

WatchCartoonOnline wanted me to turn my adblocker off, so I just went elsewhere and found some handy dandy download links so I can keep the series on the ol HD until hopefully a physical release comes along (or I'll just make my own because I'm old and still have a DVD burner in my computer)

[Bumblevivisector]

Yeah, call me old fashioned too, but as much as I loved the pilot, I might just wait and see if Nick shows the rest...if I don't cat-sit for a friend who has Paramount+ first. If I'm going to bother watching a cartoon online, it'll usually be something there's absolute zero chance of ever seeing elsewhere. Currently, I'm 3 eps into watching Car Robots and RID back to back, and when that's done, it's back to The Comic Strip or a fansub of Mazinger Z.

If there's one bad habit I've learned from being a lifelong TFan, it's being too patient for my own good. I swear I'll catch up on IDW and Japanese continuity someday...

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I just completed the first season, and there was so much to love.

For one thing, my wife was in the room with me the whole time, and she chuckled a good bit during the whole show. And she had comments, and it was pretty good from her, especially since she is not a TF fan and only listens to me talk about them in any capacity against her will.

The characters were all really good. The cast wasn't very big, but it had a lot to love. Several "special guest" characters if you will were nice, and provided some fresh takes on some characters, or some fresh twists.

Swindle for one got to live up to his name, his episode revolving around deception was enjoyable.

Arcee being a badass was great to see, and she was a lot of fun in her appearance.

Wheeljack was my favorite though. Southern Scientist type Wheeljack complete with retractable faceplate showcasing the beard was great. Dad #2 was great, and his episode was wholesome.

And then the Starscream stinger in episode 8 was great. And the Blum is back!!! The perfect Starscream voice actor has returned!!!

I will say Twitch and Megatron were my favorites. There was nothing about either of them that I would change, they were pure joy, and definitely make me more excited to have their toys. Megatron is also complex while being a ton of fun, he strikes a great balance in character legacy with new ideas. And the Mountain makes a great voice. They really have not missed with a Megatron in a while outside of WFC/IDW2019.

The human characters were also good. I love Alex, he feels just like me if I lived in this universe, and I love it. I also love Dot, and she and her status as a war vet amputee and using that experience is really cool to see, and really hasn't been done in TFs before. I also like the kids, especially with the Terrans. The human aspect is good here.

I look forward to the story moving forward and hopefully some larger cast appearances happening, we have a great cast! We just need them all together now!

As for the story, I liked it. It was a good start to the series, had some great villains while also having some good storylines started. There is some good through-lines i can see developing.

GHOST is going to be interesting to follow, as will more Decepticon action with the Soundwave/Starscream stinger.

The new Terrans are also going to be great to follow. I was also very happy with how they handled Nightshade, that character is going to make some waves, and I am happy they are.

Mandroid was also pretty cool to see, he is someone Cybertronians fear, and his story is also interesting as a wartime amputee in addition to Dot. I look forward to what else he can do.

Also, I am super glad to see that we have another new show, and another new 13 member to bring some extra life to the fiction, and especially since this one of the ones that has not gotten the love yet. Funpub got Nexus, Cyberverse Alchemist, IDW got Onyx, the Arisen, and Liege Maximo to some degree, RiD2015 got Micronus, several have had Megatronus, Prime Wars had Solus, Alpha Trion is pretty frequent, Cybertron got Vector, so we sort of only have Prime, Amalgamous, and Quintus are left, and now we are diving into Quintus, which is cool! and voiced by Clancy Brown no less!

I also like the animation, this is nice and smooth and detailed, it feels like we are hewing closer to Prime again, and I like that, the show is visually good to look at and fun to follow. It especially was good for Megatron's and Elita's movements and fights.

It's a show that looks good, sounds good, and has some good quality and love in it with respect for what came before while still reinventing itself and making a cool new identity for itself.

It's a good show, watch it.

[Quantum Surge]

I think I might like this Megatron more than the IDW version, just because he comes off more bearable here as well as there being some form of tension.

[Sabrblade]

My top three favorite characters so far are Alex, Dot, and Megatron.

Alex is the most relatable character on the show, Dot is the awesomemest character, and Megatron is the most interesting.

[84everfan]

"This leads me to talk about the action: it is excellent. While I am not a fan of some of the human characterizations, the action is what really impressed me. The fights among the bots feels fluid and dynamic, more so than anything I've ever seen in a live action film."

This is the biggest lie I have ever read in my entire life.

[84everfan]

"The show is clearly aimed at kids and not fans, this reference is not meant for fans but rather the writers using elements from the lore of the past 35 years and introducing it to a new generation of fans."
Every show before Prime had the exact same demographics, and they managed to not sound patronizing and childish. This is a piss poor excuse for the immaturity of the writing. It's a MAINLINE TRANSFORMERS SHOW. THEY HAVE HAD THE SAME AUDIENCE FOR 38 YEARS.

The children do not determine what shows get made for them, YOU do. They will watch WHATEVER is put in front of them. This show and CyberVerse are indictive of that.

If you think that a show made for fans and kids is mutually exclusive, you can NOT call yourself a transformers fan.

This is the stupidest take I have ever heard and everyone here is dumber having read it.

You cannot make the excuse that you can't have a mature tone and themes when Prime, Animated, Cybertron, and Armada did the same over a decade ago with the same age range as this show.