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[Flashwave]

Hey, not sure if this is "newsworthy", it as a follow up to the Facebook article, it might be worth noting that BBTS has pre-orders up for Lione Seasrpay etc. as well as GodFireConvoy.

Seaspray and Lione @ BBTS 19.99
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[TF-fan kev777]

So on Kup, is anyone really bothered enough about knowing the leg panels were mis-assembled to actually cut into them and swap them?

Big fat NOPE here.

[Qwan]

So on Kup, is anyone really bothered enough about knowing the leg panels were mis-assembled to actually cut into them and swap them?

Big fat NOPE here.

Not even close. My Tribute Orion Pax doesn't like to cooperate with the leg-panels lining up in vehicle mode so this was originally a ray of hope for me - maybe it's a misassembly that can be fixed, however bad? thought my naive self. Nope, just an aesthetic misassembly that doesn't affect the figure; I guess I'm still just doing it wrong. Still good to know about though, I suppose

[Sodan-1]

The Kup fix just looks like pop off the panels and swap them. I take it it isn't that simple???

Nope, as the panels in question also accommodates the rivets the wheels are connected with. That explains the saw used.

I see. Sod that, then.

[Kurona]

Talking of Tribute Orion Pax, can anyone with both him and a version of Kup check to see if the mis-assembly applies to him as well?

[Evil Eye]

If the product images are anything to go by, Orion Pax also suffers from the misassembly.

[RiddlerJ]

The Kup panels alone don't really bug me that much, but I do feel like an overall sloppiness has crept in when it comes to assembling the figures.

I had to replace my Blitzwing because he came with two left feet, My Octone has the problem with the cab section not closing properly because one side is crooked. Then there was Trypicon.

I've had other figures I've had to return or replace parts for because they came mis-assembled. I don't remember having the problem as much as I see it now, but maybe it's just me.

[Flashwave]

The Kup panels alone don't really bug me that much, but I do feel like an overall sloppiness has crept in when it comes to assembling the figures.

I had to replace my Blitzwing because he came with two left feet, My Octone has the problem with the cab section not closing properly because one side is crooked. Then there was Trypicon.

I've had other figures I've had to return or replace parts for because they came mis-assembled. I don't remember having the problem as much as I see it now, but maybe it's just me.

I wonder if anyone would have pegged an assembly issue with Kup if there hadnt been so many more obvious QC issues? And if so, I wonder how many asthetic QC issues have gotten past us as a fandom, particularly before the internet allowed us to keep such a vocal record

[primalxconvoy]

Usually this is something that (Takara fans?) people would say was mainly a Hasbro problem, however, IMO, I've noticed more QA problems with products and customer service at Takara since Tomy bought them out/merged with them.

[Qwan]

Talking of Tribute Orion Pax, can anyone with both him and a version of Kup check to see if the mis-assembly applies to him as well?

Can confirm looking at mine. I think Jelze also noted the same problem with hers a few posts back? So on top of the stock images featuring the misassembly, I think it's safe to say that every iteration of this mold so far has had the "problem".

[Randomhero]

So on Kup, is anyone really bothered enough about knowing the leg panels were mis-assembled to actually cut into them and swap them?

Big fat NOPE here.

Yeah I’ve owned Kup since January and he looks fine he transforms fine and holds together perfectly fine.

This is the biggest nitpick I’ve ever seen.

[the_neptrix]

Man, it's good to see Shaoshao in fiction that isn't blatantly horrific. I do so love anime Chinese girls. Let's hope poor old Atari gets her time to shine again.

I'd have to agree, though there aren't a lot of them. Some people seem slightly offended, though. Japanese media is just sorta like that.

[thedistinctroom]

Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

[Qwan]

Guys, I know I'm not staff and I have no authority, but can we just... not. Not again. Not again again.

Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Except Trypticon wasn't misassembled, he just sucked

(Well I guess that one outward-ratchet on the hips was a misassembly, maybe the scary tail ratchet, but my point still stands on most of the major issues.)

[Deadput]

So this is what you guys talk about these days? I...I still don't see the problem here




Talking about Kup

[DecepticonFinishline]

Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.


Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

[william-james88]

Takara Legends LG-44 Sharkticon came with a headmaster of a Sweep soldier which could be placed on top of Legends Scourge in order to differentiate Scourge from his Sweeps. Fellow Seibertronian Powered Convoy and b_croco on Twitter took images to show this effect so that you can see how a full armada would look like. It was very witty of Takara to pair this troop building head with the Sharkticon, another troop builder.

[Randomhero]

Dude, everything is misassembled these days. MPM Prime, my SDCC Metroplex, Trypticon, MP Ramjet, man... tons of stuff. It's like a new trademark.

Don't forget Pyra Magna, G2 Onslaught and TFCC Bludgeon. I know that last one isn't official. But still. This one greatly affected Transformation.


Still looking for a skilled modder to fix those pins, by the way.

Bludgeon is an official figure. Just because TFCC is no more doesn’t take away their figures’ status as official products. If it’s has Hasbro and or Takaras name on them they are official. And while the knees have a flaw they still fully functional and it doesn’t technically hinder the toy. I didn’t even know about that hinge on hotspot until it was addressed 11 months after owning him.

[Jelze Bunnycat]

Talking of Tribute Orion Pax, can anyone with both him and a version of Kup check to see if the mis-assembly applies to him as well?

Can confirm looking at mine. I think Jelze also noted the same problem with hers a few posts back? So on top of the stock images featuring the misassembly, I think it's safe to say that every iteration of this mold so far has had the "problem".

I don't have him, I quickly pulled up a YT review on the set. Easy peasy. I do want him for the Deluxe Prime setup, but I'm gonna wait on how the rest of the TR line develops when it comes to availability. I'm gonna stop right there because, well, this is Transformers Legends.

[william-james88]

Just saw this post and wanted to share asap for those who are getting the Legends Hot Rod

Aaaaand as I suspected, Hot Rod's chest didn't last long, being made out of translucent plastic.

The tight grip between his torso and chest piece meant I had to apply a good amount of force pulling it out for vehicle mode, which resulted in a nasty crack through part of the flame the third time I did it.

I'd suggest filing the sides of the tabs on his chest piece before transforming him too much, if this kind of tight tolerance is widespread.

[Randomhero]

Man if someone was to describe the fandom nowadays you’d just have to show them the history Titans Return/Legends Kup.

Reveal of art:

oh my god best version of Kup this is awesome!

Reveal of figure:

UGH! Just awful! I’ll wait and see what Takara does! No thanks!

figure is sighted months early at Walgreens:

OH MY GOD! I HAVE TO FIND HIM! I FOUND HIM HES AMAZING!

Takara reveals Legends version:

UGH! GREY!? Worst figure ever! I will only buy 5 so I can recolor a few and have some in package but Titans Return will be ultimate version with their target master!

Takara reveals new images that with cartoon accuracy:

BEST VERSION OF KUP EVER!

Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...WORST.FIGURE.EVER.

It’s certainly a wild ride.

[Qwan]

Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though

[Randomhero]

Takara releases Legends Kup and one person finds a small design flaw that nobody found in the TR one for 9 months:

...THIS LITERALLY DOESN'T MATTER TAKARA KUP IS STILL THE BEST THING EVER

FTFY

I haven't seen a single person complaining about the misassembly so far honestly. Near as I can tell, the collective conclusion is "whatever, it doesn't affect the figure and looks fine so we don't care". The rest of the timeline seems pretty accurate to me though

Not really. Plenty of people are now just complaining how every figure is busted apparently.

[RodimusRex]

I laughed at the above but it subscribes to the "everyone else on the internet is one person" fallacy.

I see it in politics, geek culture, and here.

Whenever you start down the path of "everyone is so picky and inconsistent", the truth is usually that there are separate groups, some of whom change their minds or are hypocrites occasionally, and they overlap with other people. Treating them as one big group usually leads to problems.

It's kind of like the parable of three blind men arguing about an elephant.

Two or three of those reactions apply to me. But not all of them do. For me, vehicle mode is an action feature more than a priority. So the panel assembly issue is a minor disappointment I won't think twice about unless Hasbro announces a Crosshairs redeco or a Platinum release of the Takara Kup, in which case I'll probably tweet the issue at them for future reference.

[NOBODY LOVES WHEELIE]

The Kup thing is interesting...but its a modification I will not be making. I can live with him as is.