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News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:06 pm

blackeyedprime wrote:Looks good, lower toorso is what it is. Maybe it was going to have a combining peg for reuse as first aid and a core class combiner

I would have preferred they went with the Cyberverse approach which has a better lower torso.

News Credits: 439 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:15 pm

william-james88 wrote:
blackeyedprime wrote:Looks good, lower toorso is what it is. Maybe it was going to have a combining peg for reuse as first aid and a core class combiner

I would have preferred they went with the Cyberverse approach which has a better lower torso.

It's all because G1 Ratchet and Ironhide's character models didn't have grills in their stomachs.

News Credits: 8 · by **Mr.MicroMaster** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 1:16 pm

He looks really good. I look forward to getting him.

by **SpaceEagle** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 3:31 pm

I was thinking of getting a 3rd party small Ratchet but this is awfully more convenient! Looks pretty good too...
Makes me wish they made an original mold for Earth mode Ironhide/Ratchet because this seems to pull off that look without a removable roof or Siege leftovers!

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 7:35 pm

That does look really good. Looks like it's using a simplified version of the Authentics figure's leg transformation with the sides of the ambulance wrapping around the inside of the leg and the top ending up on the back. Really great way to compress the legs and reduce kibble. And the legs look so much better, looking forward to this.

Emerje

by **RiddlerJ** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 9:53 pm

I thought SS figures were supposed to be the proper scale with each other.

by **SpaceEagle** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 10:11 pm

RiddlerJ wrote:I thought SS figures were supposed to be the proper scale with each other.

Pretty sure that got thrown out the window with Studio Series BB Shockwave.
(They're probably just offering cheaper figures for people that can't afford the pricy full-sized releases.)

by **Stormshot_Prime** » Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:42 pm

This isn’t anything but amazing. I was head over heals for the Movie the Best Laserbeak, but could never quite find them: This, though, is just perfect. I love the Core class and it works for what it is, I just really hope we get a full sized BB Shockwave?

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:13 pm

JTPrime found a listing for Core Rumble:
STUDIO SERIES CORE CLASS: Core Class figures are 3.5-inch collectible action figures that allow fans to collect mini versions of iconic characters from the movie universe
• 3.5-INCH SCALE DECEPTICON RUMBLE (BLUE): Figure features vivid, movie-inspired deco, is highly articulated for posability
• 2 ICONIC MODES: Figure features classic conversion between robot and cassette modes in 9 steps. Perfect for fans looking for a more advanced converting figure. For kids and adults ages 8 and up
• AWESOME ACCESSORIES: Comes with 2 thruster blasters and 2 pile driver accessories
• BIG SCREEN-INSPIRED: This 3.5-inch Decepticon Rumble (Blue) figure is inspired by the character’s appearance in The Transformers: The Movie

Sounds great to me, I was actually only expecting blasters or piledrivers so both is a nice surprise and the inclusion of the parentheses on (Blue) almost makes calling the blue one Rumble okay.

Also, reminder for those invested in scale and/or Soundwave functionality: the size of the figures as listed by the product descriptions is standardized by price point and NOT ACCURATE to the actual figures, just because the listing says 3.5-inch does not mean Rumble will measure in at exactly that. If that part of the description was accurate, then every Deluxe from Siege/Studio Series Wave 1 til now would be the exact same heights.

News Credits: 1641 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:42 pm

Ratchet looks interesting. At least he has a new transformation for me to experience.

I'm kinda annoyed we are about to have go number 3 since TR at the cassettes. They need to get this right and move on from those guys

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:53 pm

I just got a notice from Amazon that Sludge will be shipping tomorrow. A month early. :DANCE:

by **Skyfire7** » Tue Jul 05, 2022 11:04 pm

This is a big disappointment. I wanted Ratchet to scale with the other SS86 figures.

And why did they replace the crosses on his shoulders with "stars of life"? That isn't accurate to his appearance in the movie. I thought the point of Studio Series 86 was to homage the film.

I'll stick with Masterpiece Ratchet.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:33 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sowndwave76 wrote:There was a listing found for SS86 leader class Snarl for 2023!!!!
Kind of funny that his 3 second cameo in the movie was enough to put him in this subline.
But no complaints here… Next year I’ll finally have my favorite Dinobot in my collection!!!!

It's not really related to his screen time. This is just the line they decided to release these guys in.

This ^

Not only this, but I also believe Studio Series has slight different budget/economics to the line that made leader Dinobots fit better. For starters, only about 50% of the Studio Series leaders get a second use, while 100% of the legacy leaders either get a retool/redeco, or a flat out re-release.

Other than G2 colors, there really isn't a second use for any of the leader Dinobots, and I see a full set in G2 colors being a pretty big risk at $55 a pop. So studio series makes more sense than Legacy just because they don't have to count on a second use of the mold like they do for Legacy and did for WFC.

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:57 am

We have some more news from JTPrime17. Firstly, we have a listing on Walmart's website for a Legacy voyager Metalhawk. while we had a inner bot toy of Metalhawk in the Titans return line, it was a deluxe. So maybe this being a voyager would mean that they are incorporating some of the shell aspect. We'll see. You can discuss it on our boards here. We also have more info on the upcoming Studo Series 86 core class Rumble. The product descprtion confirms him being blue. Also, his transformation steps make it seem that he is not the same mold as the previous Siege mold, since there are twice as many steps, and he is getting both guns and pile driver accessories. That would compensate for a casette sized toy being sold along in a core class package.

Transformers Studio series Core Class Rumble (Blue)

• STUDIO SERIES CORE CLASS: Core Class figures that allow fans to collect mini versions of iconic characters from the movie universe
• DECEPTICON RUMBLE (BLUE): Figure features vivid, movie-inspired deco, is highly articulated for posability
• 2 ICONIC MODES: Figure features classic conversion between robot and cassette modes in 9 steps. Perfect for fans looking for a more advanced converting figure. For kids and adults ages 8 and up
• AWESOME ACCESSORIES: Comes with 2 thruster blasters and 2 pile driver accessories
• BIG SCREEN-INSPIRED: This 3.5-inch Decepticon Rumble (Blue) figure is inspired by the character’s appearance in The Transformers: The Movie

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:07 am

FYI, it's well known that the issue with Ratchet's shoulders is that they have the logo for the Red Cross which would mean Hasbro would have to get an extra license. Not only is that extra money but the Red Cross does not give it's license out to war toys.

News Credits: 1 · by **BLIX007** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:09 am

Wow a 3.5" Rumble!! Guessing he will not be able to transform down enough to pack him inside Netflix Soundwave, bummer. At least he comes with pile drivers and weapons :APPLAUSE:

News Credits: 18 · by **Immortal Starscream** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:19 am

Rumble I find to be very interesting. given his size, it definitely raises questions about a future soundwave release.

by **Till-all-R1** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:36 am

Rumble sounds interesting, I don't own any core bots aside from Spike so I'm not familiar with size/scale in relations to DLX bots, but wouldn't they actually be too large? If Rumble is indeed the same size as Spike?

News Credits: 1 · by **MeGrimlock78** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 10:50 am

So I should stop looking for a good price on the Spy Patrol set with Frenzy and Wingthing (and Doubledealer's pals)?

So far I only have Netflix Soundwave, but really want more minions. Don't really care if the cassettes are a bit bigger...I even toyed with the idea of using KO MP Cassettes...

News Credits: 5 · by **Overcracker** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:04 am

Amazon just pushed up the delivery of SS-86 Sludge to next week from some time in August.

News Credits: 103 · by **Cyber Bishop** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:17 am

Immortal Starscream wrote:Rumble I find to be very interesting. given his size, it definitely raises questions about a future soundwave release.

Same thing I was thinking.

News Credits: 4522 · by **william-james88** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 11:26 am

Cyber Bishop wrote:
Immortal Starscream wrote:Rumble I find to be very interesting. given his size, it definitely raises questions about a future soundwave release.

Same thing I was thinking.

Wave 2 of Legacy has a soundwave rerelease, so it coincides well with having this care class bot available on shelves at the same time

Also, 3.5 is in all descriptions for the size class, not indicative of how big this specific toy will be.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 12:23 pm

For a screen accurate line, the WFC micromaster/minicon scale is too small for Rumble and Frenzy - it's just not possible to make them screen accurate next to a Soundwave that they can also fit inside. I use the old Masterpiece figures next to my Generatioms figures, but will be interested in what's coming.

Edit: Dang, I'd forgotten how inconsistently sized Rumble and Frenzy are.

News Credits: 3 · by **Randomhero** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 1:26 pm

BLIX007 wrote:Wow a 3.5" Rumble!! Guessing he will not be able to transform down enough to pack him inside Netflix Soundwave, bummer. At least he comes with pile drivers and weapons

Why not? Eject has more articulation then the siege cassettes while also being compatible. 3.5 is the class scale not the size of the figure. Buzzworhty Bumblebee with spike is also labeled for n his detail at 3.5 and he’s smaller then that. What’s the point of releasing a cassette if they’re not compatible with with a character who can fit them that will be on the shelf at the same time. Siege soundwave.

by **Skyfire7** » Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:29 pm

william-james88 wrote:FYI, it's well known that the issue with Ratchet's shoulders is that they have the logo for the Red Cross which would mean Hasbro would have to get an extra license. Not only is that extra money but the Red Cross does not give it's license out to war toys.

I thought about that, but the problem I have with that reasoning is that his arms don't have the logo for the Red Cross- they simply have red crosses.

You can't copyright the shape of a cross, which is just two perpendicular lines, and you can't copyright the color red.

Hasbro can simply say that they're only red crosses, not the logo for the Red Cross, which is completely truthful.